A podcast about developer tools and the people who make them. Join us as we embark on a journey to explore modern developer tooling and interview the people who make it possible. We love talking to the creators front-end frameworks (React, Solid, Svelte, Vue, Angular, etc), JavaScript and TypeScript runtimes (Node, Deno, Bun), Languages (Unison, Elixor, Rust, Zig), web tech (WASM, Web Containers, WebGPU, WebGL), database providers (Turso, Planetscale, Supabase, EdgeDB), and platforms (SST, A ...
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This week we talk to Dan Stepanov, a maintainer of NativeWind, the author of NativeWind UI. NativeWind is tailwind CSS for React Native, a seemingly simple way to build UI that has lots of challenges to build. On top of that he's building NativeWind UI, a component library that leverages NativeWind to build native like experiences. We also talk abo…
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This week Evan You joins us again to talk about his new company, VoidZero, and the future of JavaScript tooling. Evan build Vite and ushered in a new era of JavaScript tooling, but thinks he can do better now by building up new rust based tooling. Rolldown is the first step in this as they aim to make build times a thing of the past. https://bsky.a…
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This week Nate Wienert stop by for a second appearance. Nate is the creator of Tamagui, a framework for building universal apps with React Native. That work led him to create One Stack, a framework for building local first universal apps with React Native. https://onestack.dev/ https://x.com/one__js https://x.com/natebirdman Apply to sponsor the po…
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Do you use cloud development environments? Do you use dev containers? This week we talk to Ivan Burazin, a co-founder of Daytona, a dev environment manager and AI developer. Ivan has been working on this problem for almost two decades now, originally for PHPAnywhere/CodeAnywhere, but now for Daytona. Daytona is a self-hosted and secure open source …
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This week we have the unique opportunity to talk to Erez Zukerman, the founder and CEO of ZSA, a company that makes open source keyboards. ErgoDox is a split keyboard that is based on open source work. Come with use as we discuss the history of ErgoDox, the challenges of making a keyboard, and all the cool products they ship. https://www.zsa.io/ ht…
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This week we got the opportunity to talk to Kris Rasmussen, the CTO of Figma. We talked about Figma's history, the evolution of Figma, and what they see as the future of designer/developer tools. We dig deep on what they're doing with Dev Mode and ponder how AI might change the way we work. https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristopherrasmussen/ https://x…
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This week we have Nathan Manceaux-Panot, the creator of Retcon, a git client. Retcon is a git client that helps you rewrite git history with remarkable ease. You can drag and drop commits to create new commits, undo, redo, and more. https://cykele.ro/ https://mas.to/@Cykelero https://github.com/Cykelero https://indieapps.space/@Retcon https://retco…
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Join us as we talk to Guido Rosso, a co-founder of Rive a new graphics format made for interactive mediums. Guido has a storied career in animation and is building the next generation of graphics formats for the web with his twin brother, Luigi. Rive is the culmination of that experience that lets you create interactive graphics in a way that is fa…
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This week we have David Mytton, a co-founder of console.dev, and a co-founder of ArcJet. At console.dev, David is always looking for ways to improve the developer experience. With ArcJet, David is try to make it easier for developers to build secure applications. https://davidmytton.blog/ Co-founder of https://console.dev/ https://x.com/davidmytton…
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This week we have Predrag Gruevski to discuss TrustFall, a new query-based tool for querying anything. Trustfall makes it simple to turn anything into queryable data. Predrag used that to create cargo-semver-checks, a tool that checks your Rust packages for semantic versioning compliance. https://x.com/PredragGruevski https://predr.ag/ https://gith…
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This week we talk to Travis Arnold, a developer who is working on a new tool to make managing typescript documentation easier. Omnidoc is a tool that allows you to build a fully customized documentation solution, and the examples are event type checked. We also talk about his other projects, Restyle, JSX UI, and the future of React. https://x.com/s…
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This week we're joined by Jordan Harband, a pillar of the npm ecosystem. Jordan maintains a staggering amount of open source projects that are used by millions of developers. Jordan has some opinions that go against the mainstream when it comes to legacy support. Join us as we try to understand his perspective. https://www.linkedin.com/in/ljharb/ h…
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On this week's episode, we're excited to have Brandon Roberts on the show. Brandon is a software engineer at Open Sauced, a company that helps other companies build better open source software. He's also a creator of Analog, an full stack framework for building Angular apps. https://brandonroberts.dev/ https://github.com/brandonroberts https://www.…
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Richard Feldman - Zed, Roc Lang - Elm but for everywhere
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This week we're joined by Richard Feldman, the author of Roc lang, a futuristic functional programming language. Richard is a software engineer at Zed, a company that making a new code editor that's built on the Rust programming language and integrates AI. We talk about all the crazy feature that Roc lang has, and how it might change the way you wr…
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Nicholas C. Zakas - ESLint
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This week we're delighted to have Nicholas Zakas on the show to talk about ESLint. ESLint is a tool that helps you find and fix problems in your JavaScript code by writing plugins that check for patterns in your code's AST. We talk about the history of ESLint, the challenges of building a linter, and the future of of ESLint. https://x.com/slicknet …
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Nathan Walker, Eduardo Speroni - NativeScript. Use Native API right in JS
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This week we're joined by Nathan Walker and Eduardo Speroni, two members of the NativeScript team. NativeScript is a framework that enables you to use native platform APIs in JavaScript. We talk about the history of NativeScript, the current state of the project, and the future of cross-platform mobile development. https://nativescript.org/ https:/…
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Robby Russell - oh my zsh, Planet Argon
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This week we have Robby Russell, the creator of Oh My ZSH, and CEO of Planet Argon. We talk about the history of Oh My ZSH, the history of Planet Argon, and the future of terminal environments. https://ohmyz.sh/ https://github.com/robbyrussell https://x.com/robbyrussell https://robbyonrails.com/ https://www.planetargon.com/ Episode sponsored By Cle…
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This week we talk to James Arthur, co-founder ElectricSQL, a local first sync engine for Postgres. ElectricSQL wants to make it easy to build local first apps with Postgres. Instead of worring about how to sync data between devices, ElectricSQL lets you reason about your database as local and running on your device. https://electric-sql.com/ https:…
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This week we have Lu Wilson (also known as TodePond) on the podcast to talk about their adventure in creating coding. Lu works at TLDraw making fantastic demo of what can build built on TLDraw by using AI in creative ways. They are also a resident at Ink and Switch and they do explorations in the future of computing. https://x.com/TodePond https://…
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Naman Goel - StyleX
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This week we have Naman Goel, the technical lead of StyleX. Stylex is a CSS-in-JS used by Facebook to build the styling of Facebook's products. We talk about the history of StyleX, how it works, and how it's better than other CSS-in-JS solutions. We also talk about how flow is better than TypeScript and why you should be using Swift over Rust. http…
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Jason Liu - Instructor, Shipping LLMs to Production
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This week we sit down with Jason Liu, a machine learning expert and the author of the Instructor. We talk about what working with LLMs is like, how to ship them to production, and how to make them more accessible to everyone. We also talk about the future of prompt engineering and how to make it easier to build better prompts. https://x.com/jxnlco …
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Dan Farrelly, Tony Holdstock-Brown - Inngest, Easy Asynchronous Workflows
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This week we have the co-founders of Inngest, Dan Farrelly and Tony Holdstock-Brown. Inngest is a event driven workflow platform that makes it incredibly easy to build asynchronous workflows in your application. We talk about the history of Inngest, how it works, and how you can use it to build your own workflows. https://www.inngest.com/ https://t…
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This week we have Solomon Hykes, the creator of Docker and co founder of Dagger. We talk about the history of Docker and how it has impacted the development community. Then we dive into Dagger and how it's simplifying CI pipelines with code. We also talk about the future of DevOps and AI integration. https://twitter.com/solomonstre https://dagger.i…
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José Valim - Elixir, Erlang, Phoenix, Livebook
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This week we're delighted to have José Valim on the podcast. José is the author of Elixir, the programming language build on the Erlang VM. Elixer provides a functional programming language with metaprogramming and built-in support for concurrency and distributed computing. Livebook is a web-based interactive programming environment for Elixir and …
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This week we have Ryan Dahl, the creator of Node and Node. We talk about the road that led from Node to Deno and what he wants to do differently. We also talk about the new javascript registry, JSR, and how they hope to make a runtime agnostic town square. https://github.com/ry https://twitter.com/rough__sea https://deno.com Episode sponsored By Cl…
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Scott Chacon - GitHub, GitButler and changing the face of version control
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This week we have Scott Chacon, a co founder of GitHub, about his new product GitButler. We talk about the history of GitHub and how GitButler is changing what user centric version control is. We also talk about the future of version control and how AI is changing the way we work. https://scottchacon.com/ https://github.com/schacon https://twitter.…
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This is our first live recording (with other people) ever! Kent C Dodds welcomes us to his Epic Web Conf to interview some of the speakers. We go into the dynamic landscape of developer tools and community engagement, reflecting on the evolution of DevRel roles with insights from industry experts. We also explore the profound influence of AI on cre…
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This week we have Maggie Appleton, a designer and developer who is working on a new research tool called Elicit. Maggie is a masterful visual storyteller and has been creating images that are both beautiful and informative for years. She is also a proponent of Digital Gardening, a new way of building a personal website that is both beautiful and in…
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Johannes Schickling - Prisma, Effect and the rise of Local First Development
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This week we have Johannes Schickling, the founder and former CEO of Prisma. We talk about what he's been up to in the last few years and what he envisions for the future of software development. He is a contributor to the Effect library which is a new way to write asynchronous code in TypeScript. We also talk about the rise of local first developm…
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Mitchell Hashimoto - Founder of HashiCorp, Author of Terraform, and Thoughts of Open Source Monetization
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This week we have Mitchell Hashimoto, the founder of HashiCorp. We talk about where it all started and how the company and it's tools have impacted the industry. We also talk about the challenges of being a founder and the importance of thinking about open source monetization early on. We also talk about his experience as a pilot and his technical …
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Adam Wathan - Tailwind CSS v4, The Evolution and Technical Journey
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This week we talk to Adam Wathan, the creator of Tailwind CSS. We go into all the changes for Tailwind CSS v4, discussing how they use Rust and Lightning CSS. Adam also shares about how they've been monetizing the tool and building out Tailwind Labs. We also address some of the heated feedback from the Twitter. https://adamwathan.me/ https://github…
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Dan Abramov - Bluesky, Core React Team, RSC, Strict Dom, and the more!
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This week we have Dan Abramov, a core team member of React. We talk about his latest work on Bluesky, a decentralized social network. We also go into many react topics, including the history of server components, the new React compiler, and the future of React. https://twitter.com/dan_abramov2 https://danabra.mov/ https://overreacted.io/ https://bs…
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Guillermo Rauch - Vercel, The Front End Cloud
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This week we have Guillermo Rauch, the founder and CEO of Vercel, and the creator of Next.js. We talk about the road to Vercel, how web development is changing, and how Vercel is helping developers build better products. We also talk about AI and generative UI, and how it might change the future of software development. https://github.com/rauchg ht…
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DHH - Ruby on Rails, 37signals, and the future of web development
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This week we're joined by DHH, the co founder of 37signals, and the creator of Ruby on Rails. We talk about the future of web development, the history of Rails, and the evolution of the web. David also talks about his views on the longevity of software and ecosystems. https://twitter.com/dhh https://37signals.com Episode sponsored By CodeCrafters (…
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This week we're joined by Dani Grant, founder of Jam.dev, a tool to report bugs in a ways that developers can immediately act on them. We talk about Dani's journey to building Jam.dev and the challenges that they faced along the way trying to find product market fit. Dani also talks her experience fund raising for Jam.dev. https://twitter.com/theda…
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This week we're joined by Herrington Darkholme, the creator of AST Grep. AST Grep is a code search tool that uses the abstract syntax tree (AST) of your code to find patterns. We talk about the genesis of AST Grep, the efficiency of AST Grep in code searching, the challenge of expressing complex patterns, the versatility of YAML for rule expression…
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Robert Balicki - Isograph, Relay, and the Future of Data Fetching in React
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This week, we have Robert Balicki on the show to talk about Isograph, a new data fetching framework for React. Robert has worked on the Relay team at Meta (formerly Facebook) and is currently at Pinterest helping them adopt Relay. We talk about the differences between Isograph and Relay, the future of data fetching and web development, and the jour…
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Glauber Costa - Forking SQLite and Building a Distributed Database with Turso
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This week we have Glauber Costa, CEO and founder of Turso, a service for distributing and using multiple SQLite instances in different regions. Glauber has a long history in the software industry, including working on the Linux kernel for many years. He shares his experience working on the Linux kernel and how it led him to found Turso. e also disc…
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Zeno Rocha - React.Email, Resend, Dracula Theme
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This week we have Zeno Rocha on the show. He is "developer famous" for creating the Dracula Theme, a popular theme for developers. He is also the co-founder of Resend, a modern email platform for developers. We talk about the journey they took to create Resend, starting with the creation of React Email, and the complexities of email delivery at sca…
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Evan Bacon - Expo
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Today's episode features Evan Bacon, the head of devtools at Expo. Expo is a framework for building React Native apps it takes care of a lot of the details so all you have to worry about is writing code. Evan is also the author of Expo Router which makes seamlessly manage your app's navigation with file based routing and so much more. We also delve…
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Christopher "vjeux" Chedeau - Prettier, React Native
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This week we talk to a legend in the dev tools space, Christopher Chedeau. Christopher is a software engineer at Meta (formerly Facebook) and has worked on some of the most popular open source projects in the world. He is the creator of Prettier, a code formatter that has saved millions of developer hours. He is also the co-creator of React Native,…
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Daniel Thompson-Yvetot, Lucas Nogueira - Tauri
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This week we're joined by Daniel Thompson-Yvetot and Lucas Nogueira to talk about Tauri, a framework for building smaller, faster, and more secure desktop applications. We talk about the advantages of Tauri over Electron, the importance of security in open source software, and the future of cross-platform apps with Tauri. After that we talk about t…
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Feross Aboukhadijeh - Socket
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This week we talk to the open source legend Feross Aboukhadijeh about his journey into open source, the challenges of open source funding, and his new company Socket.Socket is a tool that aims to make OSS security level up by providing a way to audit your dependencies for security vulnerabilities.They are able to detect much more complex vulnerabil…
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Eric Simons - StackBlitz
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This week we're joined by Eric Simons, CEO of StackBlitz. StackBlitz is an online IDE for web applications, powered by a new web standard called WebContainers. Web container allow you to run code much closer to the OS, and StackBlitz uses this to run NodeJS and NPM in the browser. We also talk about Eric's time living in AOL's headquarters, and how…
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Brian Douglas - Open Sauced, GitHub
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This week we're joined by Brian Douglas, founder of Open Sauced and former Head of DevRel at GitHub. We talk about his time at GitHub, where he worked on GitHub Actions, GitHub Discussions, and GitHub Copilot. We also talk about his new company, Open Sauced, which is a tool for developers and businesses to get insights into their open source projec…
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Jess Martin - DXOS
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This week we have Jess Martin, a developer at DXOS. We talk about his journey to DXOS and what realizations he had along the way. DXOS is a framework for building local first, multiplayer, interoperable apps where users own their own data. Apps are built on top of a shared data substrate, and users can bring their identity with them across apps. DX…
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Yagiz Nizipli - Node.js Performance
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This week we talk to Yagiz Nizipli about his work on Node.js performance. We discuss his journey into Node.js contribution, the challenges of URL parser implementation, the impact of competing runtimes, and more. We also discuss the current state of backend javascript's competing runtimes, and his views of VC Money and Open Source Funding. https://…
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Matteo Collina - Node.js, Fastify, Platformatic
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This week we talk with Matteo Collina about his background, contributions to the Node.js community, and his work on Fastify and Platformatic. Matteo is a prolific open source contributor and maintainer of many popular projects including Fastify, Pino, Mercurius, Avvio, and fast-json-stringify. He is also a Node.js TSC member and on the board of the…
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Braden Sidoti - Clerk
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This week we talk to Braden Sidoti, CTO and Co-founder of Clerk. Clerk is a developer tool that makes it easy to add authentication to your app. We talk about the complexity of authentication, the role of session management, and the evolution of Clerk. https://twitter.com/bsinthewild https://clerk.com/ Episode sponsored By Raycast (https://www…
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Isaac Schlueter - npm, Tier
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This week we talk with Isaac Schlueter, a founder at npm and Tier. We talk about the creation of npm, the early days of node, and the transition from CJS to ESM in node. We delve into the challenges of running a package registry (and a company) and his new company Tier. Tier is building a new way to define pricing for your products. https://github.…
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