Mormon Stories Podcast is an attempt to build understanding between and about Mormons through the telling of stories in both audio and video formats.
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Mormon Stories podcast, created by John Dehlin, was retired in 2007. MormonThink.com is re-posting this podcast, along with John's other works, for those who still want/need the information. Because John released all of his podcast episodes with a Creative Commons license, we are within our full legal rights to post them here.
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The Danites: Joseph Smith's Mormon Paramilitary Group - John Turner Pt. 22 | Ep. 2084
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1:41:12Welcome back for Part 22 of our Joseph Smith the Podcast series with Dr. John G. Turner as we continue to cover his new book “Joseph Smith: The Rise and Fall of an American Prophet.” In this episode, we explore one of the most controversial and lesser-known chapters in early Latter-day Saint history –the rise of the Danites, a secretive paramilitar…
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Wallace Stegner's "Mormon" Story w/ Alex Beam and Barbara Jones Brown | Ep. 2083
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1:36:38In this fascinating interview, author and journalist Alex Beam joins Mormon Stories to discuss his new biography titled Wallace Stegner: Dean of Western Writers –published by Signature Books. Alex Beam is an acclaimed journalist and author known for his insightful historical biographies. Historian and executive director of Signature Books, Barbara …
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Tim Ballard vs. the Mormon "Deep Church" w/ Carah Burrell! | Ep. 2082
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3:35:52In this explosive deep-dive, John Dehlin and Carah Burrell unpack the shocking rise, fall, and reinvention of Tim Ballard, the founder of Operation Underground Railroad and former ally of the LDS Church, as well as the self-styled hero of the Sound of Freedom movie. From his alleged misconduct and excommunication to conspiracy claims about “The Dee…
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The Kirtland Bank Scandal & Joseph Smith - w/ John Turner Pt. 21 | Ep. 2081
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2:41:34We are back today with part 21 of our Joseph Smith Podcast series with Dr. John Turner, discussing his new book Joseph Smith: The Rise and Fall of an American Prophet. In this episode, we explore one of the most fascinating and consequential moments in early Latter-day Saint history –the Kirtland Bank Scandal. Chapter 18 titled “Follies” (1836-1837…
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Nahom: The Strongest Evidence for the Book of Mormon? - LDS Discussions w/ Kolby Reddish | Ep. 2080
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1:46:00Is Nahom really the strongest evidence for the truthfulness of the Book of Mormon? In this episode, we take a deep dive into noe of the most cited archaeological “proofs” of the Book of Mormon -the discovery of altars inscribed with the letters NHM in Yemen. John Dehlin and attorney and former clerk from the Idaho Supreme Court, Kolby Reddish exami…
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Finding Joy After Mormonism w/ Sharon Beesley | Ep. 2079
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2:33:02In this episode of Mormon Stories, John and Margi Dehlin sit down with Sharon Beesley, a therapist, writer and former Mormon “mommy blogger,” to explore the evolution of her faith journey in Mormonism. Sharon was brought into the church as a child in Florida when her mother chose to convert. She discusses the warmth and community she found in her w…
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Polygamy or Adultery? Fanny Alger & Joseph Smith - John Turner Pt. 20 | Ep. 2078
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1:47:07Welcome to part 20 of our epic series on Dr. John G. Turner’s landmark biography, “Joseph Smith: The Rise and Fall of an American Prophet.” Things are really heating up as we enter the mid-1830s in the life of Joseph Smith, founder of the Latter-day Saint movement. This episode dives into one of the most controversial and debated episodes in early …
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Was Joseph Smith Credible? w/ Sandra Tanner - LDS Discussions 65 | Ep. 2077
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3:11:38Sandra Tanner is back with us on LDS Discussions to conclude our conversation on three new church essays recently published by the LDS Church. In this episode, we’ll finish our coverage of the essay on polygamy and move on to the final essay, which addresses the character of Joseph Smith. Topics include: -Joseph’s failed prophecies -Joseph’s treatm…
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Why Young Women Are Leaving the Mormon Church - Caroline Barrow | Ep. 2076
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4:08:46Caroline Barrow was raised in a typical Mormon household in Louisiana. While she was a faithful believer in the Church, she always had questions about certain teachings but was often encouraged to halt her critical thinking on these issues. She chose to attend BYU and serve a Mormon mission, but continued to be plagued by questions—particularly aro…
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The Kirtland Temple Dedication Pentecost - John Turner Pt. 19 | Ep. 2075
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2:13:52In part 19 of our deep-dive into Joseph Smith: The Rise and Fall of an American Prophet by Dr. John G. Turner, we explore the fascinating events surrounding the Kirtland Temple dedication (that took place in 1836) in Kirtland, Ohio. This episode focuses on Chapter 17, examining key developments in early Latter-day Saint ritual practice –including s…
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Four (or Five) Types of Mormons? - Are LDS Church Members Secularizing? | Ep. 2074
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3:10:01Join John Dehlin, Julie Hanks, Jana Spangler, and Beau Oyler (the Mormon Bridgebuilders) as we review a new analysis of LDS Church members by Alex Bass. Links: - Alex Bass's study - Benjamin Park's Analysis - SL Tribune Article - Robert Kirby's 5 Types of Mormons ___________________ YouTube At Mormon Stories we explore, celebrate, and challenge Mor…
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The Mormon Church Saved My Life - Keira Shae | Ep. 2073
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3:08:48Today we welcome to the podcast Keira Shae, who joins us to share her story of converting to the LDS Church as a teenager while growing up in an abusive home. Living in Utah, Keira was surrounded by Mormons and idealized them as a contrast to her tumultuous home life. Around the age of fifteen, she went to live with a foster family who required her…
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Family Feud & Scandal in Early Mormonism - John Turner pt. 18 | Ep. 2072
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1:13:35Welcome back to Part 18 of our Joseph Smith Podcast series, where we continue our in-depth exploration of Dr. John Turner’s groundbreaking biography, Joseph Smith: The Rise and Fall of an American Prophet. In this episode, we dive into parts of Chapter 16 and 17 –two of the most dramatic and revealing sections yet. We cover the explosive sibling fe…
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LDS Church Announces New Prophet and 1st Presidency - Dallin Oaks, Henry Eyring, Todd Christofferson | Ep. 2071
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1:56:17Today, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints announced a new Prophet and First Presidency. Following the passing of President Russell M. Nelson, senior apostle Dallin H. Oaks has been called as the next Prophet and President of the Church, with Henry B. Eyring and D. Todd Christofferson as his counselors. In this livestream reaction episo…
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An African (Kenya) Mormon Story - Dr. Joe Ngatia | Ep. 2070
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4:38:26In this powerful and first-ever interview with a Latter-day Saint convert from Kenya, we explore the remarkable faith journey of Dr. Joe Ngatia (pronounced “ga-tia”). Africa has become one of the fastest growing regions for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, yet Joe’s story reveals the complexities behind that growth – from faith and …
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Origins of the Book of Abraham - John Turner pt. 17 | Ep. 2069
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2:25:56Welcome back to Part 17 of our Joseph Smith Podcast series covering Dr. John Turner’s new biography on Joseph Smith titled: Joseph Smith: The Rise and Fall of an American Prophet. In this episode, we begin part one of our deep dive into the Book of Abraham –a controversial and fascinating text within Latter-day Saint history. We’ll trace its origin…
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Are "Anti-Mormons" or Mark Driscoll Responsible for Charlie Kirk & Michigan LDS Killings? | Ep. 2068
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3:07:19The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormons) has been in the news lately in connection with the assassination of Charlie Kirk and the murderous attack on an LDS chapel in Michigan. As Americans have rushed to find the "cause" of these attacks, several groups have been blamed including: Latter-day Saints, Political Conservatives/Republi…
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Anti-Mormonism and Kirtland Blessings - John Turner Pt. 16 | Ep. 2067
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2:22:31Welcome back to part 16 of our Joseph Smith Podcast with Dr. John G. Turner! In this episode, we cover chapter fifteen of John Turner’s new book titled “Joseph Smith: The Rise and Fall of an American Prophet” which covers 1834-1835 in Kirtland, Ohio and parts of Missouri. We discuss the rise of patriarchal blessings, the creation of new church offi…
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Escaping Scientology - Claire & Marc Headley Pt. 2 | Ep. 2066
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4:42:42In Part Two of our conversation with Claire and Marc Headley, we dive into the details of how they finally escaped the Sea Organization and the events that led up to that decision. We will also discuss other topics such as the FBI's investigation into Scientology, why they have spoken out against the church since leaving, and how Scientology respon…
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Born into Scientology - Claire & Marc Headley Pt. 1 | Ep. 2065
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6:28:59Prepare yourself for an EPIC non-Mormon story! This week we are introducing Claire and Marc Headley, who were born into the Church of Scientology and have a remarkable escape story that we are excited to share with you. Both Claire and Marc were members of the Sea Organization within Scientology, where the church’s elite-level leaders work and are …
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Joseph Smith and Zion’s Camp - Disastrous or Inspirational? John Turner Pt. 15 | Ep. 2064
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2:05:47We are back again with Dr. John Turner in part 15 of the Joseph Smith Podcast, covering his new book “Joseph Smith: The Rise and Fall of an American Prophet.” Join us as we explore the dramatic events of 1834 when Joseph Smith led Zion’s Camp, from Kirtland, Ohio to Clay County, Missouri. This episode dives deep into the historical and spiritual im…
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New Church Essays on Translation and Polygamy - LDS Discussions w/ Sandra Tanner | Ep. 2063
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2:53:07We are thrilled to have Sandra Tanner as a guest on our LDS Discussions series this week! Along with John, Julia, and Nemo, Sandra is here to offer commentary on three new essays recently released by the LDS Church, addressing the issues of Book of Mormon translation, polygamy, and Joseph Smith’s character. In part one of this two-part episode, we …
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I Declined My Mormon Mission Call - Benson Lawson | Ep. 2062
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3:04:11This week, we’re sitting down with Benson Lawson, who made the bold decision to decline his Mormon mission call. In the LDS community, serving a mission is often seen as non-negotiable—an expectation placed on nearly every young man. For those who choose differently, the backlash can be overwhelming. Benson is bravely sharing his story with us, ope…
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CES Letter v. The Book of Mormon pt. 2 - LDS Discussions | Ep. 2061
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1:44:32We are back today for part two of our examination of the CES Letter vs. the Book of Mormon. The CES Letter is perhaps one of the most influential documents in Mormon studies, and for years the LDS Church has criticized it and its author, Jeremy Runnells. Is this a fair treatment by the Church, or are Jeremy's questions on church doctrine valid? In …
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Chess Champion Raised in a Cult: Danny Rensch's Dark Squares | Ep. 2060
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3:58:44Today we are very excited to welcome Danny Rensch to the podcast! Lovers of chess may know Danny as an international chess champion and co-founder of Chess.com—but did you know he was also raised in a cult? In this interview, Danny discusses the release of his new book, Dark Squares: How Chess Saved My Life, which tells the story of his upbringing …
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Mob Violence Against (and by?) Mormons in Missouri - John Turner pt. 14 | Ep. 2059
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2:23:21We are here today with part fourteen of our Joseph Smith: The Podcast series with Dr. John Turner. Today we are continuing on with chapter thirteen of his new book “Joseph Smith: The Rise and Fall of an American Prophet.” The chapter is titled “Zion is Fled” and covers the years 1883-1834 in Missouri. In this episode we explore one of the most turb…
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An Inconvenient Faith & Progressive Mormonism w/ Julie Hanks, Jana Spangler & Beau Oyler | Ep. 2058
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5:13:25Recently a documentary series entitled "An Inconvenient Faith" appeared on YouTube, produced by Robert Reynolds and Jim Bennett (among others). The documentary seeks to promote progressive Mormonism within LDS church membership. The documentary is groundbreaking in the sense that it includes both Ex-Mormons (e.g. Jeremy Runnells, Sandra Tanner, Joh…
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Independent Fundamentalist Baptists (IFB) - Camille Lewis & Bob Jones University | Ep. 2057
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4:30:04This week we continue our series of non-Mormon stories with Camille Lewis. Raised as an Independent Fundamental Baptist, Camille attended and later taught at Bob Jones University—an Evangelical college in Greenville, NC, known for its strict rules and staunch conservatism. The university also has a troubling history of discrimination, including onc…
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Joseph Smith's School of the Prophets - John Turner pt. 13 | Ep. 2056
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1:59:13Welcome to another episode with Dr. John Turner as we cover his new book “Joseph Smith: The Rise and Fall of an American Prophet.” Today we are covering chapter thirteen titled “Zion is Fled” that covers 1833-1834 in Kirtland, Ohio. We answer important questions like: What is the importance of scriptures and what does that mean for this religious m…
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We are super excited to announce that a new docuseries entitled "Ruby & Jodi: A Cult of Sin and Influence" is set to be released on September 1st and 2nd on Investigation Discovery and HBO Max. This four part series provides unparalleled context behind the Ruby Franke / 8 Passengers / Jodi Hildebrandt saga. Several Ex-Mormon influencers were includ…
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Mormon Seminary Teacher Resigned LAST WEEK & Tells Us Why - Riley Davis | Ep. 2054
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4:38:42Today we are continuing our series of interviews with LDS Church Education System employees. Today’s guest is extra special, as he resigned from his seminary teaching position just days before the filming of this episode! Riley Davis was born into the church and grew up in a very traditional Mormon family in Utah. As the son of an LDS bishop, Riley…
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Did Joseph Smith Speak in Tongues? - John Turner Pt. 12 | Ep. 2053
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2:15:55We are back with Chapter Twelve of John Turner’s new book “Joseph Smith: The Rise and Fall of an American Prophet.” Today we are covering Chapter Twelve which is titled: “Olive Leaves” that covers the years 1832-1833 in Kirtland, Ohio. We tackle topics like the excommunication of Jesse Gause, one of the first General Authorities and other conflicts…
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Did Book of Mormon Lamanites Exist? - Ganesh Cherian | Ep. 2052
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3:37:32Join us live today as we welcome back Ganesh Cherian who is here to discuss the aspects of the Book of Mormon that clearly show its 19th century origins. What influences did Joseph Smith use to write the Book of Mormon? Do unique aspects of his life show up in the text? From American patriotism and Native American policy to slippery treasure and ev…
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Mormon Church Alienated Me From My Family In India - Sirisha Shumway | Ep. 2051
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3:46:01We are very excited this week to release a first-of-its-kind Mormon Stories episode! Born and raised in Hyderabad, India, Sirisha Shumway converted to Mormonism at the age of 14, against the wishes of her family. She quickly became a very devout member of her LDS community, served a mission, and even worked for the church as a translator. After mov…
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The Three Degrees of Glory in Mormon Heaven - John Turner Pt. 11 | Ep. 2050
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1:52:55We are back again with historian Dr. John Turner to explore Chapter Eleven of his new book Joseph Smith: The Rise and Fall of an American Prophet. The chapter is titled “Pure Language” and covers the years 1831-1832 in Kirtland, Ohio. Turner discusses the stories of healing on the part of Joseph Smith, the controversy surrounding the publishing of …
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Mormon on my Own Terms - Olivia Calvert | Ep. 2049
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3:37:44What happens when a Mormon woman questions her faith—but doesn’t walk away entirely? In this week's interview, Olivia Calvert shares her journey of embracing doubts and shifts in belief. Choosing to live Mormonism in her own way, Olivia’s path leads her to what she calls “casual discipleship.” While we have explored stories like this before from me…
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Early Mormon Missionary Polygamy with Native Americans? - John Turner Pt. 10 | Ep. 2048
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2:04:39Welcome to part ten of the Joseph Smith Podcast! We welcome back Dr. John Turner who is here to discuss chapter ten of his new book Joseph Smith: The Rise and Fall of an American Prophet. Chapter ten covers the 1832 time frame in Independence, Missouri. Turner answers questions like: Where did Joseph Smith get the idea of a New Jerusalem? Where did…
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The Mormon Church Made Me Give Up My Baby w/ Myndee Tollefson | Ep. 2047
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4:40:21Join us today for a unique Mormon Stories episode that is the first of its kind. Myndee Tollefson was born in Bountiful, Utah to an orthodox Mormon family. At just 19, she became pregnant and, feeling immense pressure from the Church and her family, gave her baby up for adoption through LDS Family Services—only to later discover that her child's li…
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Miracles, Demons & the United Order in Joseph Smith’s Kirtland - John Turner Pt. 9 | Ep. 2046
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2:14:27Welcome to another episode with Dr. John Turner! Today we are covering Chapter Nine of his new book “Joseph Smith: The Rise and Fall of an American Prophet." Chapter nine is titled “Flying High” and covers the year 1831 which mostly took place in Kirtland, Ohio for Joseph Smith and the early Saints. Topics include: -Comments from listeners on this …
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The Rise and Fall of Sunstone Magazine - Elbert Peck (re-broadcast) | Ep. 2045
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2:03:01Join us today as we resurface another classic Mormon Stories episode! Originally filmed in 2007, this interview is with Elbert Peck who was the editor of Sunstone Magazine from 1986-2001. Topics will include: -His early years in Washington D.C. -His time at BYU with the Seventh East Press publication -What led to him taking over Sunstone Magazine -…
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Baptized in Utah to Fit In! - Gabrielle Zelaya | Ep. 2044
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2:13:29Join us today for a unique Mormon Stories episode! Gabriella Zelaya shares her story of growing up amidst Mormon culture in Farmington, Utah as a non-member. Surrounded by an LDS-dominated community and extended family, Gabby navigated social pressure, exclusion, and judgment by the members that surrounded her. From feeling like an outsider in scho…
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Joseph Smith Prepares Church for Second Coming of Jesus - John Turner Pt. 8 | Ep. 2043
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2:20:02In this episode, we dive into Chapter Eight of Joseph Smith: The Rise and Fall of an American Prophet by John G. Turner. The chapter is titled “Enoch” which focuses on the fall of 1830 through the move to Kirtland, Ohio in 1831. We explore major challenges to Joseph Smith’s authority, including Hiram Page’s seer stone revelations and Oliver Cowdery…
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A Croatia & Slovenia Mormon Excommunication Story w/ Sara and Mitja Lakner Bevc | Ep. 2042
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5:10:27What happens when faith, culture, and conscience collide? In this gripping full-length interview, Sara (American) and Mitja (Slovenian) share their deeply personal Mormon journeys—from conversion, missions, marriage, and cultural clashes to faith crises, public dissent in Utah church meetings, and ultimately, excommunication. With raw honesty, they…
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Evil Changed Me: Lauren Matthias on True Crime Journalism and Her Mormon Faith—Pt. 2 | Episode 2041
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2:08:49In this intimate follow-up episode, journalist Lauren continues her powerful story—this time focusing on her path from reporter to advocate, wife, and co-founder of Hidden True Crime. Lauren shares the deeply personal journey that brought her to John Matthias, their relationship, marriage, and parenting as a mixed-faith couple—all while navigating …
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Hidden True Crime's Lauren Matthias Pt. 1 - Early Years and Journalism Career | Ep. 2040
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3:50:14In this powerful and emotional episode, journalist Lauren tells her Mormon story publicly for the first time. Known for covering others’ experiences—including the high-profile Lori Vallow Daybell trial—Lauren now opens up about her own journey through faith, trauma, resilience, and healing. She shares her upbringing in the LDS Church, the influence…
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Joseph Smith's Early Opposition & Forgotten Critics - John Turner Pt. 7 | Ep. 2039
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2:06:58In this episode, we dive into Chapter Seven of Joseph Smith: The Rise and Fall of an American Prophet by John G. Turner. The chapter is titled “Moses” and covers the 1830 period and the transition from New York to Kirtland, Ohio. We explore early public criticism of Joseph Smith by figures like Abner Cole, the satirical Book of Pukei, and Luman Wal…
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My Mormon Bishop Dad was Excommunicated for Polygamy - Laurel Hell | Ep. 2038
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5:30:52In this raw and emotional deep-dive, Laurel shares her powerful story of growing up in an extremely orthodox Mormon household as the youngest of eight children. From uncovering her Danish-Mormon ancestry to dealing with abuse, purity culture, and her father's secret polygamist "revelation" that led to his excommunication, Laurel reflects on how ear…
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Book of Mormon: Historical or 19th Century Text? - John Turner Pt. 6 | Ep. 2037
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1:33:49Welcome back to part six of the Joseph Smith Podcast where we are covering Dr. John Turner’s new book “Joseph Smith: The Rise and Fall of an American Prophet.” Today we are diving into Chapter Six titled “A Choice Seer” which continues to discuss the 1829 period in Palmyra, New York. This episode explores the controversies surrounding the Book of M…
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Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle and Liquid Snake Voice Actor Cam Clarke | Ep. 2036
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3:25:42In this powerful and emotional interview, voice actor Cam Clarke (known for iconic roles in animation and video games) shares his deeply personal journey growing up in a famous Mormon-Hollywood family. From his early years navigating faith, family expectations, and same-sex attraction, to starring in Saturday’s Warrior and undergoing electroshock t…
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CES Letter vs Book of Mormon | LDS Discussions 63 | Ep. 2035
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2:05:30In this episode, we dive deep into the attacks on the CES Letter and its author, Jeremy Runnells, unpacking why apologetic responses—no matter how weak—are often accepted by believing members. This is the first in a multi-part series analyzing the LDS Discussions CES Letter project.We tackle critical questions about the Book of Mormon, including:-W…
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