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This episode is from Drive 2024, our first-ever in-person event for B2B marketers in Burlington, Vermont. Kyle Coleman, CMO at Copy AI and former SVP of Marketing at Clari, hosted a session on leveraging AI to create a $0 CAC strategy that drives demand generation. With a career spanning leadership roles in B2B SaaS, Kyle brings a wealth of experie…
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#205: Career | Do you really want to be CMO? Returning from Parental Leave, What's working in B2B marketing today with Amanda Natividad, VP of Marketing at SparkToro
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Amanda Natividad is VP of Marketing at SparkToro. She's also a contributor for Adweek, a Le Cordon Bleu-trained chef, and a former journalist. Dave and Amanda catch up after Amanda's return to work after having her second child, talk about trends they are seeing in B2B marketing today and what Amanda's seen work at SparkToro (including email strate…
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#204: Inside the Exit Five Holiday Party | What’s Working in B2B Marketing and a Look Ahead to 2025 with the Exit Five Team
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In this episode, Dave and the Exit Five team celebrate the end of the year with a holiday party for the Exit Five community. They share insights, lessons, and highlights from their growth and events in 2024, play a game show with Ding Zheng, sales rapper and co-founder of EventShark, and provide a sneak preview of what's in store for 2025. Dave and…
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#203: Strategy | Why Cookie Cutter Marketing Doesn’t Work with Gurdeep Dhillon, CMO at ContentStack
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In this episode, Dave is joined by Gurdeep Dhillon, CMO of Contentstack. Gurdeep has built an impressive career leading marketing at some of the biggest names in enterprise software, from SAP to Adobe, Marketo to Zoura. Now at Content Stack, he's challenging conventional B2B marketing wisdom in rethinking how enterprise companies should approach de…
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In this episode, we’re delivering another B2B marketing lesson in under 10 minutes—no fluff, just practical insights. Matthew Carnevale, Marketing Manager at Exit Five, shares a game-changing mental model for marketers: the GM vs. Player mindset. Inspired by a sports analogy, Matthew explains why thinking like a General Manager—hiring resources and…
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#202: Marketing Leadership | How To Build A High Performing B2B Marketing Org with Peter Mahoney, CCO at GoTo
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This episode is from Drive 2024, our first-ever in-person event for B2B marketers in Burlington, Vermont. Peter Mahoney, Chief Commercial Officer at GoTo, and author of The Next CMO, shared strategies for building and leading high-performing marketing organizations. Peter covers: 10 Guidelines for building (or re-building) a marketing organization …
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#201: Paid Spend | Mastering B2B Paid Spend: A 2025 Roadmap for Marketers with John Short, CEO of Compound Growth Marketing and Kym Parker, SVP of Media Strategy
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When done right, paid spend is like throwing gasoline on the flames of what’s working in your marketing. Done wrong – it’s just a huge waste of time and money. In this episode, Dave Gerhardt hosts an live session with John Short, CEO of Compound Growth Marketing (CGM), and Kym Parker, SVP of Media Strategy at CGM, who walk through tried and true st…
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In this episode, we’re delivering another B2B marketing lesson in under 10 minutes. Matthew Carnevale, Marketing Manager at Exit Five, breaks down the story behind the best ad he’s ever created—one that generated $77,822 in MRR over two years. Spoiler: it wasn’t fancy production or clever wordplay. The secret? Raw, undeniable social proof. Matthew …
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#200: Drive | Create Once, Distribute Forever: Content Marketing & Distribution with Ross Simmonds, Founder of CEO at Foundation & Distribution.ai
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This episode is from Drive 2024, Exit Five's first-ever in-person event for B2B marketers in Burlington, Vermont. Ross Simmonds, Founder of CEO at Foundation & Distribution.ai , hosted a session on creating and distributing B2B content that drives real results. Ross covers: Why "create once, distribute forever" should be your mantra for content mar…
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#199: Marketing Leadership | From Employee #4 to CMO: The Path to Marketing Leadership with Sylvia Lepoidevin, CMO at Kandji
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In this episode, Dave is joined by Sylvia Lepoidevin, CMO of Kandji, a leading platform for managing and securing Apple devices in the workplace. Sylvia shares her journey from employee #4 to CMO at Kandji, driving the company’s growth to a $850M valuation. She talks about her experience building efficient marketing teams, leveraging AI, and creati…
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In this episode, we’re delivering another B2B marketing lesson in under 10 minutes. Matthew Carnevale, Marketing Manager at Exit Five, introduces the "Billboard Test," a mental model to evaluate whether your marketing copy can grab attention in an instant. Inspired by how billboards must captivate drivers at full speed, this test helps you refine y…
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#198: Marketing Leadership | How To Run Marketing, Creating Categories, and the Role of Marketing in Revenue Growth with Kyle Coleman, CMO at Copy.ai
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This is a re-run of one of our top episodes, where Dave is joined by Kyle Coleman, CMO at Copy.ai. Kyle went from Individual Contributor to Senior Director at Looker and Director to CMO at Clari. During his time there, he helped both companies 10x their revenue. In this episode, they chat about The importance of leadership team alignment and why th…
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#197: Strategy | How to Build a Marketing Plan and Get It Approved for 2025 with Rowan Tonkin, CMO at Planful
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In today's challenging business landscape, marketers face the daunting task of not only crafting an efficient marketing plan, but implementing it quickly, proving its value, and continuously adapting the plan on the fly. The ever-changing macroeconomic environment adds an extra layer of complexity, making success even harder to achieve. In this epi…
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#196: Drive | LinkedIn Growth Tips Every B2B CEO and Founder Needs to Know with Devin Reed, Founder of The Reeder
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This episode is from Drive 2024, our first-ever in-person event for B2B marketers in Burlington, Vermont. Devin Reed, Founder of The Reeder and expert in content strategy, shared a session on building a strong personal and company presence on LinkedIn. Devin covers: Identifying your “one word” to own and dominate a category on LinkedIn. Why your co…
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#195: Marketing Leadership | Paddle CMO Andrew Davies on The First Principles of B2B Marketing
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In this episode, Dave is joined by Andrew Davies, CMO at Paddle, a company providing complete payments infrastructure for 4,000+ software businesses globally. Prior to Paddle, he was VP of Corporate Marketing at Optimizely, following the acquisition of his startup. Dave and Andrew talk about the marketing strategy at Paddle, managing a team of 30 m…
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In this episode, we’re delivering another B2B marketing lesson in under 10 minutes—no fluff, just practical insights. Matthew Carnevale, Marketing Manager at Exit Five, discusses the difference between goals, strategies, and tactics—a framework every marketer needs to plan effectively. Matthew explains why strategy is the guiding principle behind y…
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#194: Drive | How to Say No to Your CEO with Natalie Marcotullio, Head of Growth and Operations at Navattic
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This episode is from Drive 2024, our first-ever in-person event for B2B marketers in Burlington, Vermont. Natalie Marcotullio, Head of Growth and Operations at Navattic, shared strategies on how to say “no” when faced with competing priorities in marketing. Natalie covers: How to establish a marketing framework that simplifies decision-making and h…
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#193: Growth | From Comms at Zoom to Marketing Leader at Neat, with Priscilla Barolo, Head of Marketing at Neat
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In this episode, Dave is joined by Priscilla Barolo, former head of comms at Zoom (for nearly 10 years, including the pandemic) and current Head of Marketing at Neat, an Oslo-based video tech company. Neat’s tech is used around the world from major enterprises like Atlassian to the White House. With a decade-long career at Zoom, including during it…
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#192: Drive | How To Build A Solo Marketing Business with Lashay Lewis, Founder of Authority Plug
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This episode is from Drive 2024, our first-ever in-person event for B2B marketers in Burlington, Vermont. Lashay Lewis, Founder of Authority Plug, hosted a session on making the transition from in-house marketing to building a solo business. Lashay covers: How to niche down by focusing on one problem for one ideal customer profile. Why it’s importa…
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#191: Drive | How To Measure Your Marketing Efforts with Pranav Piyush, Co-Founder & CEO of Paramark
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This episode is from Drive 2024, our first-ever in-person event for B2B marketers in Burlington, Vermont. Pranav Piyush, Co-Founder & CEO of Paramark, hosted a session on one of B2B's biggest challenges: measurement and attribution. Pranav covers: Why attribution models like first-touch and last-touch are outdated How to prove the incremental impac…
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In this episode, we’re delivering another B2B marketing lesson in under 10 minutes—no fluff, just actionable insights. Matthew Carnevale, Marketing Manager at Exit Five, breaks down a core copywriting skill that every marketer needs: crafting a hook that grabs attention right away. Too often, marketers "bury the hook" by failing to get to the point…
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#190: Strategy | Doing Marketing in a Sales-Led Organization with Taylor Udell, Head of Growth at Champify
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In this episode, Dave is joined by Taylor Udell, Head of Growth at Champify, a sales intelligence platform that helps B2B sales teams identify key contacts for more effective outreach. With experience at companies like Twilio and Heap, Taylor shares the marketing strategies she’s used to drive growth in sales-led organizations. Dave and Taylor cove…
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#189: Product Marketing | Are Product Marketers Actually Marketers? with We're Not Marketer's Podcast
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In this episode, Dave is a guest on the We're Not Marketers podcast, hosted by Zach Roberts (Founder of Break Into Product Marketing), Eric Holland (current Product Marketer at Klue), and Gab Bujold (Founder at Press X to Market). They sit down to talk about Dave’s journey in B2B marketing—from marketing manager to CMO—hosting a podcast for B2B mar…
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In this episode, we’re delivering another B2B marketing lesson in under 10 minutes—no fluff, just actionable insights. Matthew Carnevale, Marketing Manager at Exit Five, dives into a fundamental principle every B2B marketer should understand: you can't fake urgency. Real urgency isn’t something you create from thin air - it’s something that’s baked…
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#188: Drive | What Makes a Great CMO/VP in B2B Marketing: Panel with Peter Mahoney, CCO of GoTO, Amrita Mathur, VP Marketing of Zapier, and Tara Robertson, CMO of Bitly
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This episode is from Drive 2024, our first-ever in-person event for B2B marketers in Burlington, Vermont. Dave hosts a marketing leadership panel with Peter Mahoney, CCO of GoTo, Tara Robertson, CMO at Bitly, and Amrita Mathur, Head of Marketing at Zapier. These marketing leaders open up about their experiences and share actionable advice to help y…
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#187: Growth | Why Marketers Need Great RevOps Partners with Sean Lane, Founding Partner at BeaconGTM and RevOps Expert
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In this episode, Dave is joined by Sean Lane, Founding Partner at BeaconGTM and RevOps expert, to talk about scaling RevOps in B2B. With over a decade of experience at Drift and other B2B SaaS companies, Sean shares actionable tips for marketers looking to align operations with business goals. Dave and Sean cover: How to build alignment between sal…
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B2B Marketing Micro-Lesson: Why Every B2B Marketing Email Should Have Just One Call to Action
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In this special episode format, we’re testing out and delivering a B2B marketing lesson in under 10 minutes. No fluff—just practical, real-world insights based on what we’re learning each week here at Exit Five. This solo episode features Matthew Carnevale, Marketing Manager at Exit Five, who discusses a key lesson every B2B marketer needs to know:…
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In this episode, Dave Gerhardt sits down with Mason Cosby, a leader in account-based marketing (ABM) strategy and founder of Scrappy ABM. Dave and Mason unpack how to simplify ABM, create meaningful engagement, and build personalized campaigns that drive real business results. Dave and Mason cover: Why companies should crawl before they walk or run…
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#185: Content | We audited 40 B2B Landing Pages – Here’s What Stood Out with Tas Bober, Founder of Delphium Solutions and Matthew Carnevale, Marketing Manager at Exit Five
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Matthew Carnevale, Marketing Manager at Exit Five, welcomes back Tas Bober, Founder of Delphinium and expert in landing page optimization. Tas recently audited 40 B2B landing pages submitted by members in the community, and in this episode, she and Matt break down her biggest takeaways and share everything marketers should know about B2B landing pa…
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#184: Brand | How to Get Sales on Board with Your Marketing Content with Kira Federer, VP of SMB Marketing at Paramount
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In this episode, Dave sits down with Kira Federer, VP of SMB Marketing at Paramount Advertising, and formerly at companies like Reddit and Glassdoor. Kira shares her journey from sales to product marketing and the lessons she’s learned along the way. Dave and Kira discuss: How to align marketing and sales through co-creation to ensure your sales te…
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#183: Strategy | How Storylane Grew Organic Traffic 10x Through SEO in 6 Months (with Madhav Bhandari, Head of Marketing at Storylane)
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In this episode, Dave is joined by Madhav Bhandari, Head of Marketing at Storylane, a tool that helps companies build interactive product demos. Madhav shares the strategies that helped Storylane scale its website traffic from 25,000 to over 220,000 monthly visitors in just six months, using unique approaches to SEO and demand gen. Dave and Madhav …
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#182: Growth | Building a Strong Brand, Embracing AI, and Leading a Marketing Team with Mychelle Mollot, CMO at Knak
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In this episode, Dave sits down with Mychelle Mollot, CMO at Knak, a platform for creating, designing, and optimizing email and landing page content. Mychelle shares her wealth of experience, having led marketing efforts at IBM and various startups. She discusses her approach to leading marketing teams, scaling brands, and embracing AI in B2B marke…
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Danielle Messler, Head of Content at Exit Five, joins to talk about our first-ever virtual event: The Ultimate Roast of B2B Websites. It's a one day virtual event designed to help make your website better – with live teardowns of real examples submitted by B2B marketers just like you. She covers: What you'll learn if you attend The Ultimate Roast O…
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Dave sits down with Will Hoekenga, seasoned copywriter and messaging consultant for B2B SaaS brands and founder of Six Words Studio. Will shares his expertise on crafting copy for high-value web pages, like homepages and product pages, that drive conversions and speak directly to customer’s needs. Dave and Will cover: The importance of clear positi…
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#180: Growth | How Clay is Scaling Top-of-Funnel, Creator-Led Marketing, and SEO with Bruno Estrella, Head of Growth Marketing at Clay
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In this episode, Dave is joined by Bruno Estrella, Head of Growth Marketing at Clay, a tool for data enrichment and sales automation. Bruno shares his experience from Webflow to Clay, where he’s leading a mix of product-led and sales-led growth strategies for B2B companies. Dave and Bruno discuss: Building a creator-led marketing program that encou…
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#179: Growth | How to Be Great at Marketing Without Being a Subject Matter Expert with Kevin White, Head of Marketing at Common Room
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In this episode, Dave is joined by Kevin White, Head of Marketing at Common Room, a leading customer intelligence platform for go-to-market teams. Kevin shares insights from his experience helping teams capture and act on digital breadcrumbs to optimize their marketing and sales efforts. Dave and Kevin cover: How to be a good marketer even when you…
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#178: Website Teardown | Breaking Down the Best Website Experiences in 2024 with Natalie Marcotullio, Head of Growth at Navattic
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In this Exit Five Live session, Dave is joined by Natalie Marcotullio, Head of Growth at Navattic, a leading interactive demo platform for B2B marketing. Natalie is an expert in optimizing the B2B buyer journey with innovative demo solutions and data-driven strategies. Dave and Natalie cover: Why accessible, usable, and transparent websites is impo…
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Matthew Carnevale, Marketing Manager at Exit Five sits to talk about our New Marketing Leadership Accelerator Program - an 8 week live program to help you advance your skills and grow your career as a B2B marketing leader. He covers Why structured learning tracks are a good bet for Exit Five What's included in the program and why you should join Wh…
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Dave sits down with Ari Yablok, Head of Brand at Island, to share his approach to creating a brand in the cybersecurity space. Ari shares his journey from agency life to leading the brand narrative at Island, where he helped build the concept of the "enterprise browser." Dave and Ari Cover: The key differences between category creation and strategi…
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#176: Product Marketing | Improve the B2B Buying Experience with Interactive Product Demos (with Natalie Marcotullio from Navattic)
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This week, we're sharing a recording from an Exit Five Live Session with Natalie Marcotullio, Head of Growth and Operations at Navattic. She has a background in SEO and digital marketing for B2B sales and marketing SaaS. Over the years, her focus has shifted to full-funnel marketing, GTM strategy, and improving the digital buyer experience.In this …
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#175: Strategy | Enterprise Pipeline Growth and Channel Optimization Strategies with Ruth Zive, 3x CMO and Current CMO at LivePerson
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Dave is joined by Ruth Zive, CMO at LivePerson, who shares her journey in marketing leadership across tech and nonprofits. Ruth talks about aligning marketing and sales teams and navigating enterprise marketing. Ruth and Dave cover: How to align marketing and sales teams by focusing on shared goals and accountability for pipeline outcomes The best-…
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#174: Growth | Leveraging Partnerships to Drive Influence and Revenue with Jared Fuller, COO of OpenEd.co
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Dave is joined by Jared Fuller, Partner and COO of OpenEd.co. Jared talks about his career journey and building businesses in B2B, and shares his expertise in partnerships and the role they play in B2B growth. Jared and Dave cover: How to integrate partner voices into your marketing strategy to create lasting influence and trust Shifting from tradi…
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#173: Strategy | Merging Funnels, Targeting Multiple Personas, and Restructuring Your Marketing Team with Shane Murphy, CMO of Webflow
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Dave is joined by Shane Murphy, CMO of Webflow, where he is scaling one of the most innovative companies in web technology. Shane shares his insights on integrating growth strategies across self-serve and enterprise funnels, building a powerful brand, and targeting diverse personas. Shane and Dave cover: How Webflow combined its self-serve and ente…
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#172: Content Strategy | Building a Brand Strategy and Content Goldmine with Chelsea Castle, Head of Content and Brand at Close
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Dave sits down with Chelsea Castle, Head of Content and Brand at Close. Chelsea talks about her experience in B2B SaaS and shares how to build impactful content that resonates with your audience. Chelsea and Dave cover: How leveraging internal and cross-functional knowledge can create a content goldmine Why it is important to repurpose podcast epis…
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#171: Social Media | How to Grow Your B2B Brand on LinkedIn with Tommy Clark, CEO of Compound
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Dave sits down with Tommy Clark, founder of his own B2B social media agency, Compound, to talk about the ins and outs of social media strategy for B2B companies. Tommy shares his journey from running social for a SaaS company to building his agency and the lessons he’s learned along the way. Tommy and Dave cover: Why LinkedIn is the go-to platform …
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Dave sits down with Jen Allen-Knuth, founder of DemandJen. Jen shares her insights from her 15+ years in B2B Sales, from managing a quota to building great working relationships with marketing. Jen and Dave cover: Co-creating content with Marketing and Sales that drives better customer engagement and grows your pipeline How Jen successfully built h…
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#169: Inside Exit Five | Behind the Scenes of Our Content Strategy and How We’re Building the Team
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Dave sits down with Danielle (Head of Content at ExitFive) to share a behind the scenes look at the content strategy driving ExitFive. Dave and Danielle cover: How to hire a “Head of Content” and what mistakes to avoid Behind the scenes of how ExitFive repurposes content (like this podcast!) The fun challenges of going from a solopreneur to team of…
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Dave sits down with Jenn Herman, an expert in Instagram marketing, who shares the untapped potential of Instagram for B2B marketers. With over a decade of experience, Jenn has become a go-to resource for brands looking to leverage Instagram's vast user base to build brand awareness and foster long-term customer relationships. Jenn and Dave cover: W…
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#167: Email | Email Marketing Teardown: Best Practices in 2024 with Jay Schewedelson and Pierce Uijainwalla
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Dave sits down with Knak Co-Founder & CEO Pierce Ujjainwalla, and SubjectLine.com Founder Jay Schwedelson, two experts in the B2B Email Marketing, for a one hour deep dive into what’s working in 2024. They cover: Subject line strategies Design do’s and don’ts What makes a truly great email in 2024 This is a recording of an Exit Five Live session - …
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#165: Strategy | How to Create Data-Driven Content to Build Trust and Stand Out with Emir Atli of HockeyStack
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Dave is joined by Emir Atli, the founder and CRO of HockeyStack. Emir shares insights on his strategic content creation on LinkedIn to building a robust attribution platform that helps B2B marketers optimize revenue and understand customer journeys. Emir and Dave cover: How Emir and his team built a LinkedIn audience before launching their product …
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