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Rhode Island has allocated hundreds of millions of dollars to address the state’s housing crisis. Despite that, there are few tangible signs of progress so far, and there’s pushback from some cities and towns and even from some Democratic lawmakers. At the same time, the gusher of federal COVID aid that enabled consecutive state budget surpluses has dried up. Because of that, large deficits once again loom ahead in future fiscal years. And Rhode Island continues to struggle with issues like underperforming schools and the quest for a more vibrant economy. So what will it take to make more progress on key issues like the housing crisis and the state’s fiscal outlook? This week on Political Roundtable, I’m going in-depth with the number two official in the Rhode Island House of Representatives, Majority Leader Christopher Blazejewski.

This transcript has been edited for length and clarity.

Ian Donnis: Welcome back to The Public’s Radio.

Chris Blazejewski: Ian, thank you for having me.

Donnis: We’re seeing pushback from some cities and towns and even from your fellow Democratic lawmakers in the House on efforts to encourage more housing in Rhode Island. What needs to be done differently to make more progress in addressing the state’s housing crisis?

Blazejewski: You said it right there. We’re in a housing crisis, and this isn’t a crisis that Started overnight. This has been decades in the making and the house, with Speaker Stracarci’s leadership, but really the entire caucus. Has made housing a priority. If you want to have a place where everyone can have, an affordable place to live.

If you want to have a state where people can have their children, grow and live after they graduate and buy a house, we have to have a housing production that provides affordable alternatives. Affordable housing and production for at every income level in a smart growth way So we’ve really focused on that if you look at our last three budgets, we’ve not just included Legislation to promote housing.

We’ve also put money in the budget. We put 250 million dollars three years ago to support housing production, a hundred million last year and we’re looking at a hundred million dollar bond this year

Donnis: No one disagrees with anything that you just said, but when push comes to shove and things get real, there is opposition to some elements of the legislation that has been backed by your leadership team and there is resistance right now.

So what, what are the lessons from the last couple of years as far as trying to make ground? What, what kind of shifts or changes need to be made to overcome the resistance that we’re seeing?

Blazejewski: Sure, so with issues that have been created over decades, and you’re trying to solve them, you’re always going to find that there’s going to be some pushback.

One thing that we’ve tried to do with every piece of legislation we work on, in particular with the housing legislation, is to bring in the various interested parties and do the best we can to find compromise, consensus, and common ground. But where you are looking at something that has been entrenched for so many decades, there’s going to be some pushback.

We’re doing the best we can to advance what I think is a core need in our state, which is additional housing and do it in a way that working with our partners in state government, our partners in municipal government, but there’s going to be pushback. We’ll continue to try to address that pushback, but at the same time, we know we need more production. We know we need more affordable housing in the state.

Donnis: Should the state have an online dashboard as a really blunt indicator of how much or how little progress has been made on key issues like housing starts?

Blazejewski: Yeah, I think any sort of public metric is is great for me. We need to keep moving faster. We’ve put the resources in we need to see more production.

I think the speaker has been very clear about it. He wants to see more production in the housing in the housing area and we’ve been working with our partners to do that. But anything that gets the public engaged on the need to address the housing crisis I’m all in favor of.

Donnis: Your chamber, the House of Representatives will share its version of governor McKee’s budget proposal and either later this month or in early June. This is kind of a return to reality budget due to the end of federal COVID aid. How would you describe what that means for the state?

Blazejewski: So in the house, we take very seriously our constitutional obligation to pass a balanced budget. It is a core component of the work that we do and we will do it again this year. You’re right to say that this year is going to be more challenging. Over the last few years, we’ve had federal dollars that have flowed into the state as a result of various federal programs. Post-pandemic those dollars have mostly been appropriated at this point. So we’re back looking at a budget situation that looks more pre-pandemic. At the same time, we continue to try to address the needs of our state. Like we said, affordable housing, but also education, providing strong quality public education. My children go to Providence public schools. It’s a very important issue to me, but also looking at our health and human services, making sure that we are providing the resources to provide healthcare to people that need it, to, to seniors, to people living with disabilities, to people that are struggling the most. Human services as well.

We’ve looked at rate increases, which is really important. Reimbursement rates for the various healthcare providers in our state is key because we want to make sure that they, we, our Rhode Islanders can get the services they need.

Donnis: Due to the end of federal COVID aid, the state is once again looking at projected deficits far into the future. Can you envision a situation in which the state is not facing a structural deficit?

Blazejewski: Well, one way we’ve tried to do this, and the speaker has been clear, and our finance committee, which does fantastic work, has been clear about this, is to try to focus on, maintaining our current commitments instead of making new programs that increase the outstanding, budget years, and the deficits.

So doing what we do, we have currently committed to and doing it within our resources and doing it right is, is paramount. And so that’s what we’re really focused on. And I think if we do that prevents further exacerbation of outstanding budget deficits and the hope would be over time, we can start closing that gap, which we’ve been able to do over the last few years and hopefully can do into the future.

Donnis: We’re talking here with Rhode Island House Majority Leader Chris Blaszejewski, and the House is moving ahead with an overhaul of the Law Enforcement Officers Bill of Rights. Critics say that has inhibited effective internal discipline of police. How do you respond to critics who say that the overhaul backed by leadership in the House does not go far enough?

Blazejewski: Well, the, RIBLIA Caucus, some will vote for it.

Donnis: Explain what the RIBLIA is.

Blazejewski: The Black, Latino, Indigenous, Asian-American, caucus in our state. They are, some will vote for it, some may not vote for it. Some are very supportive of the legislation, and so we’ll see how that goes.

In terms of the legislation, I just want to take a step back and see how historic it is that we’re able to pass this piece of legislation that provides police accountability and transparency.

Back in 2010, before I was even in the assembly, the former executive director of the late Dan Beardsley, tried to introduce a bill to have LEOBOR reform, and couldn’t find a single sponsor, not one sponsor. And four years ago in 2010 [sic], with new efforts to have LEOBOR reform happen, Mr. Beardsley was asked again, if he ever thought it would pass, he said it wouldn’t pass.

And he’d bet his house on it. That’s what he told the Providence Journal. And yet four years later, because of the hard work we’ve done in the house and with our Senate counterparts, to bring people together, to bring the various stakeholders together, we have a new piece of legislation that provides accountability and transparency, and I’ll just say very briefly what it does.

First, it makes sure, and it is clear, that any officer who’s accused of and indicted on a serious crime can be immediately suspended without pay indefinitely. Secondly, it expands the board to include a retired judge, not just three police officers, to add a retired judge and attorney who’s appointed by the Supreme Court in consultation with panels in the court and with the bar association that are focused on racial and ethnic justice.

It provides transparency through a public reporting process that’ll be online. You’ll be able to follow the process of these LEOBOR hearings. And finally, and maybe most importantly, it takes off the gag order so that mayors and And police chiefs can speak openly about serious crimes that may be committed by police officers. We think this is a huge step forward on a major issue and is real reform.

Donnis: State workers and retirees who lost cost of living adjustment money due to the pension overhaul spearheaded by former Governor Gina Raimondo in 2011 are looking for the legislature to give them some money. Do you support that?

Blazejewski: Well, so, I was in the legislature in 2011. It was a very difficult situation. It was my freshman year, my first year in the chamber when pension reform happened. Over that time, the impact on retirees has been great. We are certainly aware of that. We’re doing our best given the budgetary constraints to look at the various proposals that have been offered by the treasurer to find ways to alleviate some of those concerns from the retirees and also current workers So we’re looking at both of those. No decisions have been made we’re still waiting on final numbers from the house budget office and the panel that puts together our final budget numbers. We should find that out tomorrow, maybe early next week and then we’ll take a look at what we can do in the budget

Donnis: We’ve heard for decades about how too many Rhode Islanders leave the state because of a lack of good jobs. You have two beautiful young kids, ages 7 and 10, I imagine you’d like to see them stay in Rhode Island when they are of working age. Are you satisfied with the state’s efforts to address the so-called brain drain?

Blazejewski: Well, we have to continue looking at this. It was just this year. We’re finally back at employment levels that exceed our pre-pandemic numbers. So we’re still in a recovery, a post-pandemic recovery. We’re continuing to do our budget to try to provide economic incentives for better, greater economic activity. But I think we all agree that we want to find ways to keep students in Rhode Island one of the programs that I worked on over the years has been a program that provides a tax credit for students that go to college in Rhode Island and stay and work in Rhode Island. Maybe something we will continue to look at to find ways to maybe to expand that to more people to say look if you decide to stay and put roots down here. We’d like to have you say, we’ll help you with your college debt. We’ve also worked on programs to make college more affordable, both CCRI and Rhode Island College. And then again, housing affordability, you need a place to live. So that goes right into the brain drain issue, making sure people can rent or buy a home once they graduate from high school or college.

Donnis: You are generally considered the heir apparent to House Speaker Joe Shekarchi, he has a massive amount of money in his campaign account, and there’s growing speculation about whether he will run for a different office in 2026, the next statewide election. Have you and he talked about whether he will seek a different office that year?

Blazejewski: So we have not, when we’re talking, we’re talking about legislation that’s happening this year. It’s truly an honor to be able to serve as Majority Leader.

Donnis: Come on, you guys don’t talk at all about this kind of thing?

Blazejewski: We really work on the people’s business. This is a part time legislature, and in this time of year, it is all about getting legislation done. You know, Speaker Shekarchi can do whatever he wants to do. He’s shown the talent to be able to do it, at any level. I hope he continues to serve in the legislature as Speaker. He’s done a tremendous job. I just want to mention, you know, In terms of working with our caucus and trying to change the culture up there, we’ve really tried to be more inclusive, and the Speaker has done that through his leadership.

As part of our Democratic caucus, we really try to take their input. Two pieces of legislation that come to mind for me are first, the firearm safe storage legislation. It’s supported by a lot of the members of the caucus. We’ve been working really hard on that bill. It’s aimed at trying to prevent the kind of tragedies that you can have in homes when there are firearms that aren’t safely stored.

Secondly is a health care shield bill that tries to protect doctors who are providing care in Rhode Island, when they, from hostile out of state laws that have been passed after the fall of Roe versus Wade. These are two issues that I think our Democratic caucus supports and they’re things that we’re really working to try to get over the finish line.

Donnis: Just in closing, as a liberal Democrat, are you concerned that the Biden administration’s approach to the conflict between Gaza, between Hamas and Israel will erode Biden’s chances in November?

Blazejewski: So, I was just reminded, Ian, just the other day, that the last time I was on this show was right after January 6th.

And I think we, in Rhode Island and across the state as Democrats, and really as Americans, we need to get Biden re-elected. You and I had the same conversation right after January 6th. And I remember crystal clear turning on my TV and I just could not believe that the images I was seeing of the attack on the Capitol was happening in this country.

I take Trump at his word. When Trump says if he does lose, there’s going to be a bloodbath in the street. It’s always ‘heads I win tails you lose’ with him. This is our democracy. And we, if we hold it dear, we need to rally around Biden. And I think the American people will, when summer turns into fall, realize that it’s as Biden likes to say, it’s not a choice between him and the almighty, it’s been him and the alternative and the alternative here is going to be Donald Trump. And we’ve got to make sure Biden gets reelected.

Donnis: Thanks very much for joining us, Rhode Island House Majority leader, Chris Blazejewski of Providence.

Blazejewski: Thank you, Ian.

– – –

Rhode Island GOP Chairman Joe Powers staged a news conference this week to criticize Democrats for their handling of the Washington Bridge. Many Rhode Islanders can identify with the frustration cited by Powers. For now, though, it remains unclear if the bridge issue will help the state GOP to gain legislative seats in November. You can read more about that in my TGIF column, posting around 4 this afternoon at thepublicsradio.org/tgif and on what used to be known as Twitter @IanDon.

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Rhode Island has allocated hundreds of millions of dollars to address the state’s housing crisis. Despite that, there are few tangible signs of progress so far, and there’s pushback from some cities and towns and even from some Democratic lawmakers. At the same time, the gusher of federal COVID aid that enabled consecutive state budget surpluses has dried up. Because of that, large deficits once again loom ahead in future fiscal years. And Rhode Island continues to struggle with issues like underperforming schools and the quest for a more vibrant economy. So what will it take to make more progress on key issues like the housing crisis and the state’s fiscal outlook? This week on Political Roundtable, I’m going in-depth with the number two official in the Rhode Island House of Representatives, Majority Leader Christopher Blazejewski.

This transcript has been edited for length and clarity.

Ian Donnis: Welcome back to The Public’s Radio.

Chris Blazejewski: Ian, thank you for having me.

Donnis: We’re seeing pushback from some cities and towns and even from your fellow Democratic lawmakers in the House on efforts to encourage more housing in Rhode Island. What needs to be done differently to make more progress in addressing the state’s housing crisis?

Blazejewski: You said it right there. We’re in a housing crisis, and this isn’t a crisis that Started overnight. This has been decades in the making and the house, with Speaker Stracarci’s leadership, but really the entire caucus. Has made housing a priority. If you want to have a place where everyone can have, an affordable place to live.

If you want to have a state where people can have their children, grow and live after they graduate and buy a house, we have to have a housing production that provides affordable alternatives. Affordable housing and production for at every income level in a smart growth way So we’ve really focused on that if you look at our last three budgets, we’ve not just included Legislation to promote housing.

We’ve also put money in the budget. We put 250 million dollars three years ago to support housing production, a hundred million last year and we’re looking at a hundred million dollar bond this year

Donnis: No one disagrees with anything that you just said, but when push comes to shove and things get real, there is opposition to some elements of the legislation that has been backed by your leadership team and there is resistance right now.

So what, what are the lessons from the last couple of years as far as trying to make ground? What, what kind of shifts or changes need to be made to overcome the resistance that we’re seeing?

Blazejewski: Sure, so with issues that have been created over decades, and you’re trying to solve them, you’re always going to find that there’s going to be some pushback.

One thing that we’ve tried to do with every piece of legislation we work on, in particular with the housing legislation, is to bring in the various interested parties and do the best we can to find compromise, consensus, and common ground. But where you are looking at something that has been entrenched for so many decades, there’s going to be some pushback.

We’re doing the best we can to advance what I think is a core need in our state, which is additional housing and do it in a way that working with our partners in state government, our partners in municipal government, but there’s going to be pushback. We’ll continue to try to address that pushback, but at the same time, we know we need more production. We know we need more affordable housing in the state.

Donnis: Should the state have an online dashboard as a really blunt indicator of how much or how little progress has been made on key issues like housing starts?

Blazejewski: Yeah, I think any sort of public metric is is great for me. We need to keep moving faster. We’ve put the resources in we need to see more production.

I think the speaker has been very clear about it. He wants to see more production in the housing in the housing area and we’ve been working with our partners to do that. But anything that gets the public engaged on the need to address the housing crisis I’m all in favor of.

Donnis: Your chamber, the House of Representatives will share its version of governor McKee’s budget proposal and either later this month or in early June. This is kind of a return to reality budget due to the end of federal COVID aid. How would you describe what that means for the state?

Blazejewski: So in the house, we take very seriously our constitutional obligation to pass a balanced budget. It is a core component of the work that we do and we will do it again this year. You’re right to say that this year is going to be more challenging. Over the last few years, we’ve had federal dollars that have flowed into the state as a result of various federal programs. Post-pandemic those dollars have mostly been appropriated at this point. So we’re back looking at a budget situation that looks more pre-pandemic. At the same time, we continue to try to address the needs of our state. Like we said, affordable housing, but also education, providing strong quality public education. My children go to Providence public schools. It’s a very important issue to me, but also looking at our health and human services, making sure that we are providing the resources to provide healthcare to people that need it, to, to seniors, to people living with disabilities, to people that are struggling the most. Human services as well.

We’ve looked at rate increases, which is really important. Reimbursement rates for the various healthcare providers in our state is key because we want to make sure that they, we, our Rhode Islanders can get the services they need.

Donnis: Due to the end of federal COVID aid, the state is once again looking at projected deficits far into the future. Can you envision a situation in which the state is not facing a structural deficit?

Blazejewski: Well, one way we’ve tried to do this, and the speaker has been clear, and our finance committee, which does fantastic work, has been clear about this, is to try to focus on, maintaining our current commitments instead of making new programs that increase the outstanding, budget years, and the deficits.

So doing what we do, we have currently committed to and doing it within our resources and doing it right is, is paramount. And so that’s what we’re really focused on. And I think if we do that prevents further exacerbation of outstanding budget deficits and the hope would be over time, we can start closing that gap, which we’ve been able to do over the last few years and hopefully can do into the future.

Donnis: We’re talking here with Rhode Island House Majority Leader Chris Blaszejewski, and the House is moving ahead with an overhaul of the Law Enforcement Officers Bill of Rights. Critics say that has inhibited effective internal discipline of police. How do you respond to critics who say that the overhaul backed by leadership in the House does not go far enough?

Blazejewski: Well, the, RIBLIA Caucus, some will vote for it.

Donnis: Explain what the RIBLIA is.

Blazejewski: The Black, Latino, Indigenous, Asian-American, caucus in our state. They are, some will vote for it, some may not vote for it. Some are very supportive of the legislation, and so we’ll see how that goes.

In terms of the legislation, I just want to take a step back and see how historic it is that we’re able to pass this piece of legislation that provides police accountability and transparency.

Back in 2010, before I was even in the assembly, the former executive director of the late Dan Beardsley, tried to introduce a bill to have LEOBOR reform, and couldn’t find a single sponsor, not one sponsor. And four years ago in 2010 [sic], with new efforts to have LEOBOR reform happen, Mr. Beardsley was asked again, if he ever thought it would pass, he said it wouldn’t pass.

And he’d bet his house on it. That’s what he told the Providence Journal. And yet four years later, because of the hard work we’ve done in the house and with our Senate counterparts, to bring people together, to bring the various stakeholders together, we have a new piece of legislation that provides accountability and transparency, and I’ll just say very briefly what it does.

First, it makes sure, and it is clear, that any officer who’s accused of and indicted on a serious crime can be immediately suspended without pay indefinitely. Secondly, it expands the board to include a retired judge, not just three police officers, to add a retired judge and attorney who’s appointed by the Supreme Court in consultation with panels in the court and with the bar association that are focused on racial and ethnic justice.

It provides transparency through a public reporting process that’ll be online. You’ll be able to follow the process of these LEOBOR hearings. And finally, and maybe most importantly, it takes off the gag order so that mayors and And police chiefs can speak openly about serious crimes that may be committed by police officers. We think this is a huge step forward on a major issue and is real reform.

Donnis: State workers and retirees who lost cost of living adjustment money due to the pension overhaul spearheaded by former Governor Gina Raimondo in 2011 are looking for the legislature to give them some money. Do you support that?

Blazejewski: Well, so, I was in the legislature in 2011. It was a very difficult situation. It was my freshman year, my first year in the chamber when pension reform happened. Over that time, the impact on retirees has been great. We are certainly aware of that. We’re doing our best given the budgetary constraints to look at the various proposals that have been offered by the treasurer to find ways to alleviate some of those concerns from the retirees and also current workers So we’re looking at both of those. No decisions have been made we’re still waiting on final numbers from the house budget office and the panel that puts together our final budget numbers. We should find that out tomorrow, maybe early next week and then we’ll take a look at what we can do in the budget

Donnis: We’ve heard for decades about how too many Rhode Islanders leave the state because of a lack of good jobs. You have two beautiful young kids, ages 7 and 10, I imagine you’d like to see them stay in Rhode Island when they are of working age. Are you satisfied with the state’s efforts to address the so-called brain drain?

Blazejewski: Well, we have to continue looking at this. It was just this year. We’re finally back at employment levels that exceed our pre-pandemic numbers. So we’re still in a recovery, a post-pandemic recovery. We’re continuing to do our budget to try to provide economic incentives for better, greater economic activity. But I think we all agree that we want to find ways to keep students in Rhode Island one of the programs that I worked on over the years has been a program that provides a tax credit for students that go to college in Rhode Island and stay and work in Rhode Island. Maybe something we will continue to look at to find ways to maybe to expand that to more people to say look if you decide to stay and put roots down here. We’d like to have you say, we’ll help you with your college debt. We’ve also worked on programs to make college more affordable, both CCRI and Rhode Island College. And then again, housing affordability, you need a place to live. So that goes right into the brain drain issue, making sure people can rent or buy a home once they graduate from high school or college.

Donnis: You are generally considered the heir apparent to House Speaker Joe Shekarchi, he has a massive amount of money in his campaign account, and there’s growing speculation about whether he will run for a different office in 2026, the next statewide election. Have you and he talked about whether he will seek a different office that year?

Blazejewski: So we have not, when we’re talking, we’re talking about legislation that’s happening this year. It’s truly an honor to be able to serve as Majority Leader.

Donnis: Come on, you guys don’t talk at all about this kind of thing?

Blazejewski: We really work on the people’s business. This is a part time legislature, and in this time of year, it is all about getting legislation done. You know, Speaker Shekarchi can do whatever he wants to do. He’s shown the talent to be able to do it, at any level. I hope he continues to serve in the legislature as Speaker. He’s done a tremendous job. I just want to mention, you know, In terms of working with our caucus and trying to change the culture up there, we’ve really tried to be more inclusive, and the Speaker has done that through his leadership.

As part of our Democratic caucus, we really try to take their input. Two pieces of legislation that come to mind for me are first, the firearm safe storage legislation. It’s supported by a lot of the members of the caucus. We’ve been working really hard on that bill. It’s aimed at trying to prevent the kind of tragedies that you can have in homes when there are firearms that aren’t safely stored.

Secondly is a health care shield bill that tries to protect doctors who are providing care in Rhode Island, when they, from hostile out of state laws that have been passed after the fall of Roe versus Wade. These are two issues that I think our Democratic caucus supports and they’re things that we’re really working to try to get over the finish line.

Donnis: Just in closing, as a liberal Democrat, are you concerned that the Biden administration’s approach to the conflict between Gaza, between Hamas and Israel will erode Biden’s chances in November?

Blazejewski: So, I was just reminded, Ian, just the other day, that the last time I was on this show was right after January 6th.

And I think we, in Rhode Island and across the state as Democrats, and really as Americans, we need to get Biden re-elected. You and I had the same conversation right after January 6th. And I remember crystal clear turning on my TV and I just could not believe that the images I was seeing of the attack on the Capitol was happening in this country.

I take Trump at his word. When Trump says if he does lose, there’s going to be a bloodbath in the street. It’s always ‘heads I win tails you lose’ with him. This is our democracy. And we, if we hold it dear, we need to rally around Biden. And I think the American people will, when summer turns into fall, realize that it’s as Biden likes to say, it’s not a choice between him and the almighty, it’s been him and the alternative and the alternative here is going to be Donald Trump. And we’ve got to make sure Biden gets reelected.

Donnis: Thanks very much for joining us, Rhode Island House Majority leader, Chris Blazejewski of Providence.

Blazejewski: Thank you, Ian.

– – –

Rhode Island GOP Chairman Joe Powers staged a news conference this week to criticize Democrats for their handling of the Washington Bridge. Many Rhode Islanders can identify with the frustration cited by Powers. For now, though, it remains unclear if the bridge issue will help the state GOP to gain legislative seats in November. You can read more about that in my TGIF column, posting around 4 this afternoon at thepublicsradio.org/tgif and on what used to be known as Twitter @IanDon.

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