Parenthood, Play and Neurodiversity

Soil, Shadow, and Spirit

In this episode of Soil, Shadow, and Spirit, Nikki Silvestri sits down with Zephrine "Gemma" Hansen for an intimate conversation on the intersection of motherhood, leadership, and neurodiversity. Gemma, a storyteller, advocate, and community connector, shares her journey of raising children diagnosed with autism while balancing her own evolving roles as a mother, veteran, and land steward.

In this episode, you’ll hear:

1. How neurodiversity has reshaped Gemma’s understanding of leadership and community care.
2. Reflections on the challenges of motherhood, family, and the unexpected lessons learned from creating a non-traditional family unit.
3. Insight into the importance of play and creativity in leadership, and how embracing these elements has deepened her connection to her children and work.
4. Gemma’s vision for building intentional, supportive communities for Black mothers and neurodiverse individuals.

Join us as we explore the profound intersections of leadership, family, and care.

Links of Note:

• Soil, Shadow, and Spirit Retreat Series
• Hampden Farms

Series Executive Producers: Kalliopeia Foundation and Soil and Shadow

Sound Engineering: Sonya Harris

Music: Galen Silvestri

Host: Nikki Silvestri

Special Thanks: Zephrine "Gemma" Hansen and Noni Limar