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Achieving Conviction in Capital Planning: Part 2, Data-Driven Decision Making
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In episode 20 of Constructing With Care, host Leslie Tullio from DPR Construction continues the conversation with Curtis Skolnik of CommonSpirit Health and Jonathan Bykowski of Array Advisors. Building on their earlier discussion about vision, stakeholder alignment, and data-driven strategy, they now dive into how organizations execute with confidence—exploring the role of lean construction, BIM/VDC, technology integration, and leadership in navigating capital projects.
Host, Leslie Tullio is joined by:
Curtis Skolnick, CommonSpirit Health
Jonathan Bykowski, Array Advisors
Episode Highlights
01:30 – The role of BIM and VDC Curtis discusses how early-stage planning tools accelerate implementation, but also the challenge of how far to push them in upfront planning.
02:59 – Industry gaps in technology adoption Jonathan challenges the AEC industry's slow progress, explaining why BIM is really data and how outdated paradigms still hold projects back.
05:42 – Balancing innovation with value Curtis emphasizes that innovation must have practical value, not just novelty.
06:17 – Creating room for experimentation Jonathan highlights the lack of a "safe space" to test new approaches and how integrated project delivery helps create room for experimentation.
07:35 – Financial risk and uncertainty Curtis explains how CommonSpirit uses constant data modeling to mitigate financial risk in a volatile environment.
09:14 – Resource allocation challenges A look at how health systems manage limited human resources and prioritize projects.
10:53 – Rethinking ROI Jonathan describes how clients are focusing more on long-term flexibility and adaptability, not just immediate cost-benefit.
13:02 – Building a leadership bench Curtis shares how CommonSpirit fosters a culture of collaboration, innovation, and change through leadership development.
15:40 – Working with different client cultures Jonathan explains how Array Advisors adapts its role to support diverse organizational cultures, sometimes even using creative tactics like removing titles in meetings.
17:53 – Building trust and relationships Both guests reflect on the importance of trust and relationship-building in driving project success.
19:25 – What the future holds Predictions for the next 5–10 years: the emergence of a two-tier healthcare system and the need for faster decision-making.
21:13 – Advice for navigating uncertainty Curtis: Understand your risk tolerance and the risk/reward equation. Jonathan: Be brave and do no harm.
Quotes
Curtis Skolnick
"Not all ROI is financial—sometimes it's access, equity, or the human impact that matters most."
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