Product Management and Product Marketing are two sides of the same coin. So why do we so rarely talk about both in the same breath? Each week, join product marketer Lena Höck and product manager Daniel Thomason as they analyse products and brands from their respective lenses. Whether you want to become a full-stack product person, explore company strategy from discovery to post launch, or simply enjoy some good banter, this is the podcast for you! For more, visit shipitshoutit.com