LH #27 Learning's New Recession with Sharon Claffey Kaliouby

The Learning Hack podcast

John talks to Sharon Claffey Kaliouby, VP, North America for Learning Pool, an award-winning professional and co-founder of the #women in learning group with Kate Graham. Sharon has held several high profile executive roles in Learning & Development with the likes of Thomson Reuters and Enterprise Ireland. Prior to Learning Pool, she was a Learning Fellow & Advisor for Elliott Masie Productions and previously Head of Global Learning & Development for State Street Global Advisors in Boston, Massachusetts. She is also a keen sportsperson – surfing, golf, fencing and basketball are among the sports that get a mention. But the conversation is mainly about the challenges facing women in their career progression in learning, a profession whose workforce, ironically, is predominantly female at entry level. It also touches on the 'Lean-in’ movement of a few years back – was it a completely positive thing? – and the current effects of the pandemic, which is impacting women more harshly than men. What can women do about all this – and what about men? 03:35 Why are there so few women at exec level in learning? 05:58 Has there been much change over 20 years? 09:13 Does tech have a particular problem? 11:53 The 'she-cession' 14:37 Sharon's experience as a woman in L&D 20:44 When awards wins don't bring life wins 22:41 Reflections on the 'Lean In' book and movement 26:17 What can women do to change the situation? 29:45 Should they take up golf? 32:00 What can men do to change the situation? 35:14 Where next for #womeninlearning? #womeninlearning LinkedIn group: https://www.linkedin.com/groups/12210548/ Sharon's 'Hang Tens' can be found here: https://learningpool.com/category/webinars/ Books mentioned: Lean In: Women, Work, and the Will to Lead, by Sheryl Sandberg and Nell Scovell, Alfred A. Knopf, 2013 The Orange Line: A Woman's Guide to Integrating Career, Family and Life by by Jodi Ecker Detjen, Michelle a. Waters & Kelly Watson, JMK Publishing, May 2013 The Next Smart Step: How to Overcome Gender Stereotypes and Build a Stronger Organization, by Jodi Ecker Detjen, Kelly Watson, Imagine Publishing, Feb. 2021 Our Learning Brain: Engaging Your Brain for Learning & Habit Change, by Dr. Celine Mullins, Oak Tree Press, Oct. 2018 Contact Sharon: Twitter: @Sharon_Kaliouby LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/sharonkaliouby18 Contact John Helmer Twitter: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/ Download the new white paper from Learning Pool written by John Helmer – 'Experience: Theory, design and supporting technologies for an experience-based learning culture' https://learningpool.com/theory-design-and-supporting-technologies-for-an-experience-based-learning-culture/