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From Code to Cloud in 15 Minutes: Jason Taylor's Expert Insights And The Clean Architecture Template 1:02:14

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RJJ Software's Software Development Service This episode of The Modern .NET Show is supported, in part, by RJJ Software's Podcasting Services , whether your company is looking to elevate its UK operations or reshape its US strategy, we can provide tailored solutions that exceed expectations. Show Notes "So I've been focused on the code to cloud journey, I like to call it, for the template. And two years ago, my goal was to provide a solution that could take you from code to cloud in 45 minutes or less. So I wanted it to be "file new project" to deploy a solution on Azure—because that's where my main focus is—within 45 minutes."— Jason Taylor Welcome friends to The Modern .NET Show; the premier .NET podcast, focusing entirely on the knowledge, tools, and frameworks that all .NET developers should have in their toolbox. We are the go-to podcast for .NET developers worldwide, and I am your host: Jamie "GaProgMan" Taylor. In this episode, Jason Taylor (no relation) joined us to talk about his journey from Classic ASP to .NET and Azure. He also discusses clean architecture’s maintainability, and his open-source Clean Architecture Solution template for ASP .NET Core, along with strategies for learning new frameworks and dealing with complexity. "Right now the template supports PostgreSQL, SQLite, and SQL Server. If you want to support MySQL, it's relatively easy to do because there's already a Bicep module or a Terraform module that you can go in and use it. So I went from 45 minutes to now I can get things up and running in like, I don't know, two minutes of effort and 15 minutes of waiting around while I make my coffee"— Jason Taylor Along the way, we talk about some of the complexities involved with creating a template which supports multiple different frontend technologies and .NET Aspire (which was news to me when we recorded), all the while maintaining the goal of being the simplest approach for enterprise development with Clean Architecture. Anyway, without further ado, let's sit back, open up a terminal, type in `dotnet new podcast` and we'll dive into the core of Modern .NET. Supporting the Show If you find this episode useful in any way, please consider supporting the show by either leaving a review (check our review page for ways to do that ), sharing the episode with a friend or colleague, buying the host a coffee , or considering becoming a Patron of the show . Full Show Notes The full show notes, including links to some of the things we discussed and a full transcription of this episode, can be found at: https://dotnetcore.show/season-7/from-code-to-cloud-in-15-minutes-jason-taylors-expert-insights-and-the-clean-architecture-template/ Jason's Links: Jason's Clean Architecture repo on GitHub Jason's Northwind Traders with Clean Architecture repo on Github Connect with Jason Jason's RapidBlazor repo on GitHub Other Links: C# DevKit for Visual Studio Code Code, Coffee, and Clever Debugging: Leslie Richardson's Microsoft Journey and the C# Dev Kit in Visual Studio Code with Leslie Richardson dotnet scaffold devcontainers .NET Aspire Azure Developer CLI GitHub CLI Obsidian Supporting the show: Leave a rating or review Buy the show a coffee Become a patron Getting in Touch: Via the contact page Joining the Discord Remember to rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts , Podchaser , or wherever you find your podcasts, this will help the show's audience grow. Or you can just share the show with a friend. And don't forget to reach out via our Contact page . We're very interested in your opinion of the show, so please get in touch. You can support the show by making a monthly donation on the show's Patreon page at: https://www.patreon.com/TheDotNetCorePodcast . Music created by Mono Memory Music , licensed to RJJ Software for use in The Modern .NET Show…

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Deploying With Confidence: Sam Gomez on Terraform, Bicep, and Infrastructure as Code 1:08:09

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Show Notes "If you talk to people that have been doing Terraform for many years, they're going to tell you that, "Terraform is the law and Terraform is the way to go." But like you said, there's different tools, I would say, or languages that you can use for infrastructure as code. And it really depends what you want to do, what your developers are used to or are comfortable with and what works with your organization as it should be with any tool in software development. You got to grab the one or use the one that is more appropriate for your use case, your scenario, your organization"— Sam Gomez Welcome friends to The Modern .NET Show; the premier .NET podcast, focusing entirely on the knowledge, tools, and frameworks that all .NET developers should have in their toolbox. We are the go-to podcast for .NET developers worldwide, and I am your host: Jamie "GaProgMan" Taylor. In this episode, Sam Gomez joined us to talk about Infrastructure as Code, why you might want to think about using something like Terraform and Bicep, and how they can help you to automate your deployments to the public cloud. Sam also talks about best practises for CI/CD and ways to test your Infrastructure as Code ahead of running it--something that we've all felt the pain of in the past, I'm sure. "Terraform has what's called validation for your parameters. So like I said, you can set up a validation that says, "the only values for the SKU for a SQL server are basic," for example. And if somebody tries to give a different value to that particular parameter, it'll stop automatically and say, "okay, this validation has failed. You know, the value allowed is this one." You can do the same thing with Bicep. So that's another added layer of protection against making these kind of mistakes and adding or configuring the wrong values in your deployments"— Sam Gomez Anyway, without further ado, let's sit back, open up a terminal, type in `dotnet new podcast` and we'll dive into the core of Modern .NET. Podcasthon 2025! One last thing before we start the episode: we're super happy to participate in the 3rd edition of Podcasthon For one week, more than a thousand podcasts will highlight a charity of their choice. And today, I have the pleasure of welcoming Andy's Man Club to the show. Throughout this episode, I'll interrupt the conversation a few times to talk about the importance of mental fitness. The reason that I've picked Andy's Man Club is because mental health support is very important to me. I've used their groups for almost two years and have had the honour of being asked to step up and help run one of those groups. If you'll forgive the name for now, Andy's Man Club is a UK-based charity which organises weekly, informal, peer-to-peer talking groups for anyone over the age of 18 who identifies as male. I'll talk more about Andy's Man Club later in the episode. Supporting the Show If you find this episode useful in any way, please consider supporting the show by either leaving a review (check our review page for ways to do that ), sharing the episode with a friend or colleague, buying the host a coffee , or considering becoming a Patron of the show . Full Show Notes The full show notes, including links to some of the things we discussed and a full transcription of this episode, can be found at: https://dotnetcore.show/season-7/deploying-with-confidence-sam-gomez-on-terraform-bicep-and-infrastructure-as-code/ Music Used In This Episode This contains some copyright free music during the interstitials. Each of the pieces of music (linked below) were created by YouTube user HoobeZa , and we thank them for making their work free to use. If you liked the music we used, check out links to the pieces below: "Lounge" "Mellow" "Golden" "Release" Podcasthon 2025 This episode of the podcast contains support for both Podcasthon , Andy's Man Club , and Capes on the Couch . Please feel free to check out both projects at the links below. Podcasthon! Andy's Man Club Capes on the Couch And please remember to check in on your own mental fitness from time to time. Useful Links Sam on LinkedIn Dad's in Tech The bus factor Terraform Registry Azure Verified Modules Bicep for VS Code Terraform extension for VS Code Terraform CNCF Hashicorp Developer Website Sam's MVP profile Sam on X Sam on BlueSky Supporting the show: Leave a rating or review Buy the show a coffee Become a patron Getting in Touch: Via the contact page Joining the Discord Remember to rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts , Podchaser , or wherever you find your podcasts, this will help the show's audience grow. Or you can just share the show with a friend. And don't forget to reach out via our Contact page . We're very interested in your opinion of the show, so please get in touch. You can support the show by making a monthly donation on the show's Patreon page at: https://www.patreon.com/TheDotNetCorePodcast . Music created by Mono Memory Music , licensed to RJJ Software for use in The Modern .NET Show…

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Metaprogramming Made Accessible: Gael Fraiteur Explores the World of Metalama 58:49

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RJJ Software's Software Development Service This episode of The Modern .NET Show is supported, in part, by RJJ Software's Podcasting Services , whether your company is looking to elevate its UK operations or reshape its US strategy, we can provide tailored solutions that exceed expectations. Show Notes "And I think this is really the key factor in software development. I think it's really to keep complexity low, because in most projects, unless you are writing an operating system, a framework or rocket navigation you are not coding against hardware; like the hardware is not your bottleneck. You are coding against human brains, cognitive abilities of your team; like how many smart people your company is able to put on your team, this is your limiting factor so we need to keep complexity low and I think it's really the most important benefit."— Gael Fraiteur Welcome friends to The Modern .NET Show; the premier .NET podcast, focusing entirely on the knowledge, tools, and frameworks that all .NET developers should have in their toolbox. We are the go-to podcast for .NET developers worldwide, and I am not your host: Jamie. I'm Delilah and I will be recording the intro for this episode because Jamie is suffering with a throat infection. In this episode, Gael Fraiteur joined us to talk about Metaprogramming with Metalama. Gael is the original author of the wildly successful PostSharp and has been working with the aspect-oriented programming pattern for over 20 years. In this conversation we talk about how metaprogramming (regardless of whether you use Metalama to achieve that or not) can save on both the complexity and the number lines of code in your projects. "Well, there are studies that try to correlate the cost of software projects to the number of lines of code. And the conclusion is: it is more or less a linear dependency. A bit super linear. That means that if you have 15% fewer lines of code, you are going to get 15% lower development cost. So that's the easiest part"— Gael Fraiteur Anyway, without further ado, let's sit back, open up a terminal, type in `dotnet new podcast` and we'll dive into the core of Modern .NET. My voice was created using Generative AI. Supporting the Show If you find this episode useful in any way, please consider supporting the show by either leaving a review (check our review page for ways to do that ), sharing the episode with a friend or colleague, buying the host a coffee , or considering becoming a Patron of the show . Full Show Notes The full show notes, including links to some of the things we discussed and a full transcription of this episode, can be found at: https://dotnetcore.show/season-7/metaprogramming-with-gael-fraiteur/ Gael's Links: Gael on LinkedIn PostSharp on LinkedIn Metalama: Metalama homepage Documentation Marketplace GitHub Supporting the show: Leave a rating or review Buy the show a coffee Become a patron Getting in Touch: Via the contact page Joining the Discord Remember to rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts , Podchaser , or wherever you find your podcasts, this will help the show's audience grow. Or you can just share the show with a friend. And don't forget to reach out via our Contact page . We're very interested in your opinion of the show, so please get in touch. You can support the show by making a monthly donation on the show's Patreon page at: https://www.patreon.com/TheDotNetCorePodcast . Music created by Mono Memory Music , licensed to RJJ Software for use in The Modern .NET Show…

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The Infinite Game Meets Azure Security with Bojan Magušić 1:03:37

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RJJ Software's Software Development Service This episode of The Modern .NET Show is supported, in part, by RJJ Software's Podcasting Services , whether your company is looking to elevate its UK operations or reshape its US strategy, we can provide tailored solutions that exceed expectations. Show Notes "I always believe, and this is taking my kind of Microsoft hat off, and I'm sharing my personal view here. I definitely believe regardless of the public cloud provider in question, they're all part of a bigger ecosystem. And I emphasize the word ecosystem. I believe security as, you know, a problem statement of our time, it's just so complex that it really can't be solved by a single company or by a single organization or a single individual. You really need to see like collaboration and cooperation taking place across different sectors, across different public cloud providers."— Bojan Magušić Welcome friends to The Modern .NET Show; the premier .NET podcast, focusing entirely on the knowledge, tools, and frameworks that all .NET developers should have in their toolbox. We are the go-to podcast for .NET developers worldwide, and I am your host: Jamie "GaProgMan" Taylor. In this episode, Bojan Magušić joined us to talk about both his new book "Azure Security" but also his work as part of the security team at Azure and his top tips for protecting your digital landscape (aka your apps and services) on the public cloud. Not only did Bojan and I talk about the security aspects of protecting your public cloud digital landscape, but we also talked about how all the public cloud providers actually work together to ensure that everyone is protected from CVEs and exploits when they are discovered. An application of the Infinite Game, if you will—if you're not sure what that is, we cover that in the episode, too. "So instead of at times you know thinking of it as a zero-sum game, I definitely believe there is opportunity to kind of expand the ecosystem and partner in meaningful ways where we can share information and share insights and guidance and even skill sets that are going to make us all as an industry and, you know, as clients more secure."— Bojan Magušić Anyway, without further ado, let's sit back, open up a terminal, type in `dotnet new podcast` and we'll dive into the core of Modern .NET. Supporting the Show If you find this episode useful in any way, please consider supporting the show by either leaving a review (check our review page for ways to do that ), sharing the episode with a friend or colleague, buying the host a coffee , or considering becoming a Patron of the show . Full Show Notes The full show notes, including links to some of the things we discussed and a full transcription of this episode, can be found at: https://dotnetcore.show/season-7/the-infinite-game-meets-azure-security-with-bojan-magusic/ Useful Links Bojan on LinkedIn Azure Security OWASP ZAP —now owned by Checkmarx Supporting the show: Leave a rating or review Buy the show a coffee Become a patron Getting in Touch: Via the contact page Joining the Discord Remember to rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts , Podchaser , or wherever you find your podcasts, this will help the show's audience grow. Or you can just share the show with a friend. And don't forget to reach out via our Contact page . We're very interested in your opinion of the show, so please get in touch. You can support the show by making a monthly donation on the show's Patreon page at: https://www.patreon.com/TheDotNetCorePodcast . Music created by Mono Memory Music , licensed to RJJ Software for use in The Modern .NET Show…

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Grokking Application Security: Malcolm McDonald on Securing Your Apps 1:12:08

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RJJ Software's Software Development Service This episode of The Modern .NET Show is supported, in part, by RJJ Software's Podcasting Services , whether your company is looking to elevate its UK operations or reshape its US strategy, we can provide tailored solutions that exceed expectations. Show Notes "This should be a mantra for anyone working on web applications or web APIs: you should validate any input of the application as much as possible. When you conceptualize it, all the malicious input into your application comes across in an HTTP request at some point. It's either in the URL or in the body. That's generally speaking, unless you have a supply chain attack, that's generally the vector by which your application will be attacked. Before you even start to kind of think about specific vulnerabilities, if you narrow down what is permissible input right out of the gate, then you kind of close the door on so many different vulnerabilities without even thinking about it."— Malcolm McDonald Welcome friends to The Modern .NET Show; the premier .NET podcast, focusing entirely on the knowledge, tools, and frameworks that all .NET developers should have in their toolbox. We are the go-to podcast for .NET developers worldwide, and I am your host: Jamie "GaProgMan" Taylor. In this episode, Malcolm McDonald joined us to talk about the importance of Application Security, knowing the basics of secure coding, and backing that all up with both "secure by default" designs, and subscribing to CVE notifications. "So what you find in your career is that if you set down kind of sensible default behaviour in your codebase earlier on, then everyone will follow that. You establish, kind of, best practices. It might take a little bit longer, but if you say, "this is the way we do this over here," then even yourself when you, kind of, come back to, will kind of, reproduce that path. So the initial, kind of, like first few check-ins to your source control are key to, like, establishing best practice"— Malcolm McDonald One note before we begin: some of Malcolm's audio is a little rough. Mark, our superstar editor, has done what he can, but there are parts that might be a little unclear. If you have trouble with the audio, please remember that there is a full transcription linked in the accompanying show notes. Anyway, without further ado, let's sit back, open up a terminal, type in `dotnet new podcast` and we'll dive into the core of Modern .NET. Supporting the Show If you find this episode useful in any way, please consider supporting the show by either leaving a review (check our review page for ways to do that ), sharing the episode with a friend or colleague, buying the host a coffee , or considering becoming a Patron of the show . Full Show Notes The full show notes, including links to some of the things we discussed and a full transcription of this episode, can be found at: https://dotnetcore.show/season-7/grokking-application-security-malcolm-mcdonald-on-securing-your-apps/ Useful Links Malcolm on LinkedIn Grokking Application Security Hacksplaining Hash function Don't Accept The Defaults Bcrypt Supporting the show: Leave a rating or review Buy the show a coffee Become a patron Getting in Touch: Via the contact page Joining the Discord Remember to rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts , Podchaser , or wherever you find your podcasts, this will help the show's audience grow. Or you can just share the show with a friend. And don't forget to reach out via our Contact page . We're very interested in your opinion of the show, so please get in touch. You can support the show by making a monthly donation on the show's Patreon page at: https://www.patreon.com/TheDotNetCorePodcast . Music created by Mono Memory Music , licensed to RJJ Software for use in The Modern .NET Show…

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The Security Expert Speaks: Tanya Janca on Learning to Code Securely 1:11:07

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RJJ Software's Software Development Service This episode of The Modern .NET Show is supported, in part, by RJJ Software's Podcasting Services , whether your company is looking to elevate its UK operations or reshape its US strategy, we can provide tailored solutions that exceed expectations. Show Notes "From the very first lesson of "Hello, World" they teach us to make insecure code. So the first thing with "Hello, World" is how to output to the screen. That is fine. But the second part of "Hello, World" is: you ask them their name, you take their name. you don't validate it, and then you say "Hello," and you reflect their name back onto the screen with no output encoding. And then you just made cross-site scripting. And right from the very first lesson, we teach everyone wrong in pretty much every language, and so as a result we end up with a lot of people doing code the wrong way. Like, universities are still teaching lots of things wrong. And so I'm hoping that this book will help."— Tanya Janca Welcome friends to The Modern .NET Show; the premier .NET podcast, focusing entirely on the knowledge, tools, and frameworks that all .NET developers should have in their toolbox. We are the go-to podcast for .NET developers worldwide, and I am not your host: Jamie. I'm Delilah and I will be recording the intro for this episode because Jamie's throat infection returned, making it tough for him to record this intro. In this episode, we welcomed Tanya Janca back to the show. This conversation marks her third appearance on the show, and a slight change in focus to Secure Coding. We talk about how developers are taught to write insecure code from day one (or "Hello, World!"), about how her new book "Alice and Bob Learn Secure Coding" could help with that, the many hours of free education and learning that Tanya has created alongside the book, and how both data scientists and academics approach software development differently to some of us developers. "There are so many amazing security features in .NET. There's so many. Like, because I... I wrote about eight different frameworks and .NET by far had the absolute most different security features. And part of it, some of them are from Windows. Some of them are from C... because I wrote about C# and .NET. And to be quite honest, audience, I mixed them up quite a bit because, "what is specifically C#, and what is specifically .NET," got a bit confused in my brain. But I'm like, all of it's good. Do all of it"— Tanya Janca Anyway, without further ado, let's sit back, open up a terminal, type in `dotnet new podcast` and we'll dive into the core of Modern .NET. My voice was created using Generative AI. Supporting the Show If you find this episode useful in any way, please consider supporting the show by either leaving a review (check our review page for ways to do that ), sharing the episode with a friend or colleague, buying the host a coffee , or considering becoming a Patron of the show . Full Show Notes The full show notes, including links to some of the things we discussed and a full transcription of this episode, can be found at: https://dotnetcore.show/season-7/the-security-expert-speaks-tanya-janca-on-learning-to-code-securely/ Tanya's Previous Appearances: Episode 77 - Application Security with Tanya Janca Episode 105 - More Application Securuty with Tanya Janca Useful Links Tanya's books Tanya's newsletter Hello, World Don't Accept The Defaults Semgrep Okta Pushing Left, Like a Boss: Part 1 Owasp DAST (Dynamic Application Security Testing) SAST (Static Application Security Testing) Semgrep Academy (previously known as WeHackPurple Academy) Application Security Foundations Level 1 Owasp Juice Shop OwaspHeaders.Core Owasp Top Ten Content-Security-Policy Trusted Types Jason Haddix Retrieval-Augmented Generation (aka RAG) Posting Malicious Code as an Answer Supporting the show: Leave a rating or review Buy the show a coffee Become a patron Getting in Touch: Via the contact page Joining the Discord Remember to rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts , Podchaser , or wherever you find your podcasts, this will help the show's audience grow. Or you can just share the show with a friend. And don't forget to reach out via our Contact page . We're very interested in your opinion of the show, so please get in touch. You can support the show by making a monthly donation on the show's Patreon page at: https://www.patreon.com/TheDotNetCorePodcast .…

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Unlocking the Power of AI: Jim Bennett on Pieces for Developers 1:09:07

14 weeks fa1:09:07

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RJJ Software's Software Development Service This episode of The Modern .NET Show is supported, in part, by RJJ Software's Podcasting Services , whether your company is looking to elevate its UK operations or reshape its US strategy, we can provide tailored solutions that exceed expectations. Show Notes "So we're dealing with code bases that are getting bigger and bigger every day. You know, those million line code bases, two million line code bases is not unusual. We are being pushed to do more. I remember when I was working at Microsoft a couple of years ago, Satya Nadella, CEO, his favourite phrase was, "you have to do more with less." But yeah, so Satya was big on this idea of do more with less. And this has kind of resonated across the industry as a whole."— Jim Bennett Welcome friends to The Modern .NET Show; the premier .NET podcast, focusing entirely on the knowledge, tools, and frameworks that all .NET developers should have in their toolbox. We are the go-to podcast for .NET developers worldwide, and I am not your host: Jamie. I'm Delilah and I will be recording the intro for this episode because Jamie is suffering with a throat infection. In this episode, Jim Bennett returns to the show after a six-year absence. In his previous appearance, Jim introduced us to Xamarin, but in the time since that appearance, Xamarin has been sunsetted. So it felt natural to start our conversation about the wonderful outpouring of support over on X with the hashtag #XamarinGaveMe. The main topic of conversation is about Generative AI, Large Language Models, and how the new startup, Pieces, can help developers to keep the context of what they are working on at the front of their mind at all times; both when they are online and off. "If I said to you, "which character from the Pixar movie Up are you?" The answer is going to be, "Doug," we're all Doug. We're all like, "squirrel!" So if we have to go from our IDE to a browser to ask a question, we're reading email on the way. We are looking at chat tools on the way. Oh, we're in a browser. "Oh, I've got a notification on Blue Sky. I'm going to have a look at that." We are context switching. We are distracted. We are drinking coffee. We are losing our productivity"— Jim Bennett Anyway, without further ado, let's sit back, open up a terminal, type in `dotnet new podcast` and we'll dive into the core of Modern .NET. My voice was created using Generative AI. Supporting the Show If you find this episode useful in any way, please consider supporting the show by either leaving a review (check our review page for ways to do that ), sharing the episode with a friend or colleague, buying the host a coffee , or considering becoming a Patron of the show . Full Show Notes The full show notes, including links to some of the things we discussed and a full transcription of this episode, can be found at: https://dotnetcore.show/season-7/unlocking-the-power-of-ai-jim-bennett-on-pieces-for-developers Jim's Links: Jim's linked on Link Tree Pieces Pieces Discord #XamarinGaveMe Xamarin in Action (AKA Jim's book on Xamarin) Jamie's Public NuGet Packages: OwaspHeaders.Core ClackMiddleware OnionArch.Mvc Useful Links Generative AI for .NET Developers with Amit Bahree Ollama OpenVino LLMs Mentioned: Llama Microsoft Phi Mistral Qwen-2.5 which Jamie mis-names as Quon. Supporting the show: Leave a rating or review Buy the show a coffee Become a patron Getting in Touch: Via the contact page Joining the Discord Remember to rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts , Podchaser , or wherever you find your podcasts, this will help the show's audience grow. Or you can just share the show with a friend. And don't forget to reach out via our Contact page . We're very interested in your opinion of the show, so please get in touch. You can support the show by making a monthly donation on the show's Patreon page at: https://www.patreon.com/TheDotNetCorePodcast .…

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Modern .NET NuGet Packaging with Scott Harden 49:16

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RJJ Software's Software Development Service This episode of The Modern .NET Show is supported, in part, by RJJ Software's Podcasting Services , whether your company is looking to elevate its UK operations or reshape its US strategy, we can provide tailored solutions that exceed expectations. Show Notes "So a lot of these features are new features that probably weren't there when you first made your package. But I'd like to just briefly talk through what each of these are and talk about how to fix them. So before jumping into the complexity of those red Xs, let's just take a little step back and talk about how to edit what appears in a NuGet package. Because it might be a little bit confusing for someone who's brand new."— Scott Harden Welcome friends to The Modern .NET Show; the premier .NET podcast, focusing entirely on the knowledge, tools, and frameworks that all .NET developers should have in their toolbox. We are the go-to podcast for .NET developers worldwide, and I am not your host: Jamie. I'm Delilah and I will be recording the intro for this episode because Jamie is suffering with a throat infection. In this episode, Scott Harden joined us for the final part in a special three part series. This final part of our conversation takes the major points from the previous two episodes and applies them specifically to authoring NuGet packages. We start by discussing what NuGet packages are, cover the NuGet Package Explorer (which you can run in your browser, by the way), and finally wrap everything up by taking a look at a PR that Scott had provided for one of Jamie's open-source packages: OWASP Headers.Core. "So in this case, it's like, well, okay, what icon do we use? A lot of developers are like, 'I'm a programmer. I'm not a graphic designer.' But—I just want to encourage everyone. It doesn't matter. First of all, no one's downloading your NuGet package because you're a graphic designer. Some of the most popular NuGet packages have really, really, really simple icons. And I'm not going to call any by name but it's kind of a joke where a lot of people make a really simple one-off icon when their project gets small and they kind of feel like they can never change it later because the project got big, so you have a lot of really great projects with really simple icons, so don't be intimidated by that"— Scott Harden Anyway, without further ado, let's sit back, open up a terminal, type in `dotnet new podcast` and we'll dive into the core of Modern .NET. My voice was created using Generative AI. Supporting the Show If you find this episode useful in any way, please consider supporting the show by either leaving a review (check our review page for ways to do that ), sharing the episode with a friend or colleague, buying the host a coffee , or considering becoming a Patron of the show . Full Show Notes The full show notes, including links to some of the things we discussed and a full transcription of this episode, can be found at: https://dotnetcore.show/season-7/modern-net-nuget-packaging-with-scott-harden Scott's Links: scottplot.net swharden.com GitHub LinkedIn Jamie's Public NuGet Packages: OwaspHeaders.Core ClackMiddleware OnionArch.Mvc Useful Links Package authoring best practices licenses.nuget.org SPDX License List Microsoft.SourceLink.GitHub Scott's PR for OwaspHeaders.Core: "Improve NuGet package metadata" Inkscape ScottPlot.NET: GitHub NuGet scottplot.net The charts that Scott was referring to when talking about downloads per day, can be seen here Supporting the show: Leave a rating or review Buy the show a coffee Become a patron Getting in Touch: Via the contact page Joining the Discord Remember to rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts , Podchaser , or wherever you find your podcasts, this will help the show's audience grow. Or you can just share the show with a friend. And don't forget to reach out via our Contact page . We're very interested in your opinion of the show, so please get in touch. You can support the show by making a monthly donation on the show's Patreon page at: https://www.patreon.com/TheDotNetCorePodcast .…

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Open-Source and Our Digital Legacies with Scott Harden 1:15:27

18 weeks fa1:15:27

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RJJ Software's Software Development Service This episode of The Modern .NET Show is supported, in part, by RJJ Software's Podcasting Services , whether your company is looking to elevate its UK operations or reshape its US strategy, we can provide tailored solutions that exceed expectations. Show Notes "I don't want to go into the details right now, but for the listeners, I will say that we are right in the middle of an explosive situation right now with some WordPress drama. WordPress and WP Engine are experiencing a lot of the fallout, kind of related to what we talked about in the last episode, where you start out with some good intentions and then you get in a situation where both sides kind of feel burned. And I'm not going to say that there's a perfect solution out there, But I do think that this frequent check-ins and asking, you know, "is this good for me and what needs to change for this to be good for my life?" is important."— Scott Harden Welcome friends to The Modern .NET Show; the premier .NET podcast, focusing entirely on the knowledge, tools, and frameworks that all .NET developers should have in their toolbox. We are the go-to podcast for .NET developers worldwide, and I am not your host: Jamie. I'm Delilah and I will be recording the intro for this episode because Jamie is suffering with a throat infection. In this episode, Scott Harden joined us to talk more about open-source, software licensing, and a little on some of the most recent NuGet package updates that .NET developers should know about. It's important to note, Scott and Jamie talked about the WordPress controversy which was still unfolding as we recorded (which on October 19th, 2024). They brought it up not to make fun of WordPress or to add fuel to the flames, but to talk about the fact that it highlighted Scott's point about checking in with yourself regularly, as an open-source developer, about whether you're getting what you want from your public repos. Whilst talking about open-source development and licensing, Scott brought up a question on our collective and individual digital legacies. "And this is kind of a startling topic to bring up, but what if you just disappeared tomorrow? Because people just leave because they have some medical situation or some life situation, or they die. And this happens. This happens in software. We'll talk about some specific examples in a minute. But, you know, if you disappear tomorrow, it's interesting to think about kind of what your digital legacy would be. And, you know, you could have left this thing behind in a way that it could have been used by everyone or anyone."— Scott Harden This episode has a lot of resources in the accompanying show notes , so if you're listening along in a podcast player make sure to head to the website (there'll be a link). That way you don't miss out on all the wonderful things Scott and Jamie talked about. As a form of trigger warning, at around the 58 minute mark Scott talks about how his own journey with cancer brought the idea of his digital legacy to the forefront for him. Both Scott and Jamie also talk about the late Abel Wang and Pieter Hintjens. And they talk about other examples of developers who are very public with their health struggles: Jeremy Likness and (previous guest of the show) Jon Smith, who suffer with Alzheimer's disease and dementia respectively. We understand completely if you want to skip this entire section. But we also feel that there are very important points raised whilst talking about these, less cheery, matters. This conversation makes up the bulk for the final 10-15 minutes of the episode. Aside from a teaser for the next part (which is all about NuGet packages), you won't miss anything .NET specific if you choose to skip this part. Anyway, without further ado, let's sit back, open up a terminal, type in `dotnet new podcast` and we'll dive into the core of Modern .NET. Supporting the Show If you find this episode useful in any way, please consider supporting the show by either leaving a review (check our review page for ways to do that ), sharing the episode with a friend or colleague, buying the host a coffee , or considering becoming a Patron of the show . Full Show Notes The full show notes, including links to some of the things we discussed and a full transcription of this episode, can be found at: https://dotnetcore.show/season-7/open-source-and-our-digital-legacies-with-scott-harden/ Scott's Links: scottplot.net swharden.com GitHub LinkedIn Jamie's Public NuGet Packages: OwaspHeaders.Core ClackMiddleware OnionArch.Mvc Useful Links GNU Terry Pratchett OWASP Secure Headers Project GitHub sponsors Jamie on Coffee and Open Source with Isaac Levin The WordPress vs VP Engine drama, explained What we know about the xz Utils backdoor that almost infected the world .NET Foundation Finding Strength in Weakness by Jeremy Likness How to update a NuGet library once the author isn't available by Jon Smith Entity Framework Core with Jon Smith A protocol for dying Get Busy Living with Abel Wang ScottPlot.NET: GitHub NuGet scottplot.net The charts that Scott was referring to when talking about downloads per day, can be seen here Supporting the show: Leave a rating or review Buy the show a coffee Become a patron Getting in Touch: Via the contact page Joining the Discord Remember to rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts , Podchaser , or wherever you find your podcasts, this will help the show's audience grow. 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The Spirit of Open Source in a Modern .NET World with Scott Harden 1:22:35

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RJJ Software's Software Development Service This episode of The Modern .NET Show is supported, in part, by RJJ Software's Podcasting Services , whether your company is looking to elevate its UK operations or reshape its US strategy, we can provide tailored solutions that exceed expectations. Show Notes "One of the projects that I work on right now that's probably one of my more successful ones, It's a scientific data visualization library for .NET. It's called ScottPlot. The name is silly. It's because when I made it, I thought I was the only person going to be using it. And then some other people started using it and that wasn't totally unexpected. But now it's about a million and a half installs on NuGet. I think it has like 5,000 stars on GitHub. It's really cool just to watch this thing grow."— Scott Harden Welcome friends to The Modern .NET Show; the premier .NET podcast, focusing entirely on the knowledge, tools, and frameworks that all .NET developers should have in their toolbox. We are the go-to podcast for .NET developers worldwide, and I am not your host: Jamie. I'm Delilah and I will be recording the intro for this episode because Jamie is suffering with a throat infection. In this episode, Scott Harden joined us for the first of three episodes on .NET, open source, and NuGet. This part of the conversation is all about what Scott calls "The Spirit of Open Source in a Modern .NET World." This is the background information on why Scott (and Jamie) believe that developers should look to creating open source works, putting them out there, and gathering feedback from people. Not only will it enhance your technical skill set (and very quickly), but it will also allow you to get experience at failing in a safe space: in public. "Now, humans evolved to like helping people in our in-group. And I think it means a lot that we treat anonymous strangers on the Internet, or we can treat them. Obviously, this can go wrong. But we can treat them as part of our in-group. Like, "hey, we are all in this technical world together. We are struggling. Let's figure this out together." And that bridge of trust and effort and you're sharing your knowledge with another person, it is such a positive experience all around the table"— Scott Harden This episode has a lot of resources in the accompanying show notes , so if you're listening along in a podcast player make sure to head to the website (there'll be a link). That way you don't miss out on all the wonderful things Scott and Jamie talked about. And remember, this is just part one. In the next two parts, Scott and I talk about creating NuGet packages, ensuring their safety and security, and how to be a good citizen of the open source community. Talk about a festive gift for you all. And definitely go ahead and check out Scott's work and writings. He's a really interesting person, an amazing open source contributor, and an all-round great person. Anyway, without further ado, let's sit back, open up a terminal, type in `dotnet new podcast` and we'll dive into the core of Modern .NET. Supporting the Show If you find this episode useful in any way, please consider supporting the show by either leaving a review (check our review page for ways to do that ), sharing the episode with a friend or colleague, buying the host a coffee , or considering becoming a Patron of the show . Full Show Notes The full show notes, including links to some of the things we discussed and a full transcription of this episode, can be found at: https://dotnetcore.show/season-7/the-spirit-of-open-source-in-a-modern-net-world-with-scott-harden/ Scott's Links: scottplot.net swharden.com GitHub LinkedIn Useful Links Job crafting Left-Pad incident The story behind colors.js and faker.js What we know about the xz Utils backdoor that almost infected the world Hello, Duende Double-precision floating-point format Dave Farley Sigstore Add support for sigstore as signing method for NuGet packages The Primeagen Coding Blocks Some episodes of this show focusing on App Security and dependency management The Risks of Third Party Code With Niels Tanis Application Security with Tanya Janca Building Secure Software: Unveiling the Hidden Dependencies with Niels Tanis Managing Dependencies with M. Scott Ford Breaking Up with Tech Debt: A Love Story with M. Scott Ford Books that Jamie gives to interns: The Life-Changing Magic of Tidying Up by Marie Kondo Start With Why by Simon Sinek Essentialism: The Disciplined Pursuit of Less by Greg McKeown ScottPlot.NET: GitHub NuGet scottplot.net The charts that Scott was referring to when talking about downloads per day, can be seen here Code Licenses mentioned (in order): MIT CC0 Apache 2 L-GPL v3 WTFPL Programming languages Jamie mentioned (in order) Go Odin Zig Supporting the show: Leave a rating or review Buy the show a coffee Become a patron Getting in Touch: Via the contact page Joining the Discord Remember to rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts , Podchaser , or wherever you find your podcasts, this will help the show's audience grow. Or you can just share the show with a friend. And don't forget to reach out via our Contact page . We're very interested in your opinion of the show, so please get in touch. 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Cleipnir and Beyond: On Resilient Development Practices with Thomas Sylvest 1:05:50

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RJJ Software's Software Development Service This episode of The Modern .NET Show is supported, in part, by RJJ Software's Podcasting Services , whether your company is looking to elevate its UK operations or reshape its US strategy, we can provide tailored solutions that exceed expectations. Show Notes "So part of what Resilient Programming is about and what the framework does is that it kind of like tries to provide a nice abstraction, a developer-friendly abstraction for implementing distributed systems."— Thomas Sylvest Welcome friends to The Modern .NET Show; the premier .NET podcast, focussing entirely on the knowledge, tools, and frameworks that all .NET developers should have in their toolbox. We are the go-to podcast for .NET developers worldwide, and I am your host: Jamie "GaProgMan" Taylor. In this episode, Thomas Sylvest joined us to talk about both Resilient Programming and Cleipnir .NET - a framework that Thomas worked on to implement the concepts of Resilient Programming in .NET applications. Cleipnir, and Resilient Programming, are fantastic for supporting message-driven architectures; whether you've built a monolith, series of microservices, or anything in between. "But the idea is the same, kind of like that you try and remember the result of actions that you've done in a way that if you then start again, you won't... you kind of like you'll check in your little notebook if you already performed this action. If you did then you'll just return the result of the previous execution. If you look in your in your notebook and you can see, 'okay actually I haven't done this before' you will then perform the action"— Thomas Sylvest Anyway, without further ado, let's sit back, open up a terminal, type in `dotnet new podcast` and we'll dive into the core of Modern .NET. Supporting the Show If you find this episode useful in any way, please consider supporting the show by either leaving a review (check our review page for ways to do that ), sharing the episode with a friend or colleague, buying the host a coffee , or considering becoming a Patron of the show . Full Show Notes The full show notes, including links to some of the things we discussed and a full transcription of this episode, can be found at: https://dotnetcore.show/season-7/cleipnir-and-beyond-on-resilient-development-practices-with-thomas-sylvest/ Useful Links Paxos Raft Polly .NET Hangfire Quartz Inbox and outbox pattern Idempotence Azure Durable Functions Mass Transit Rebus NServiceBus Thomas on LinkedIn Microsoft Open: Introduction to Cleipnir.Flows a tool to get resilient code Supporting the show: Leave a rating or review Buy the show a coffee Become a patron Getting in Touch: Via the contact page Joining the Discord Remember to rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts , Podchaser , or wherever you find your podcasts, this will help the show's audience grow. Or you can just share the show with a friend. And don't forget to reach out via our Contact page . We're very interested in your opinion of the show, so please get in touch. You can support the show by making a monthly donation on the show's Patreon page at: https://www.patreon.com/TheDotNetCorePodcast .…

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The Art of Teaching Programming using Unity: An Interview with Harrison Ferrone 1:06:14

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Metalama This episode of The Modern .NET Show is supported, in part, by Metalama , reduce your boilerplate code by up to 15% with Metalama's C#-to-C# template engine and reduce your code complexity today! Show Notes "Like the whole point is to learn a system of thinking, like to learn how to analyze; how to, like, pick out what's happening and identify your problem, and then to implement a solution that fits your needs."— Harrison Ferrone Welcome friends to The Modern .NET Show; the premier .NET podcast, focussing entirely on the knowledge, tools, and frameworks that all .NET developers should have in their toolbox. We are the go-to podcast for .NET developers worldwide, and I am your host: Jamie "GaProgMan" Taylor. In this episode, Harrison Ferrone joined us to talk about his journey from being an English major to a self-taught programmer and instructional author focused on accessible tech education. Harrison also talks about his book, " Learning Design Patterns with Unity ," which is designed as a practical guide for game development using well-known patterns while emphasizing the importance of quick wins in learning. "Like we do so much work in the later parts of each chapter with like pattern variations and customisations, because I want readers and students and learners to like, look at it, look at the first, you know, 70% and be like, "oh, but what, oh, oh, we're going to talk about what ifs. Fantastic. Cause I have a lot of what ifs.""— Harrison Ferrone Anyway, without further ado, let's sit back, open up a terminal, type in `dotnet new podcast` and we'll dive into the core of Modern .NET. Supporting the Show If you find this episode useful in any way, please consider supporting the show by either leaving a review (check our review page for ways to do that ), sharing the episode with a friend or colleague, buying the host a coffee , or considering becoming a Patron of the show . Full Show Notes The full show notes, including links to some of the things we discussed and a full transcription of this episode, can be found at: https://dotnetcore.show/season-7/the-art-of-teaching-programming-using-unity-an-interview-with-harrison-ferrone/ Useful Links Learning Design Patterns with Unity Design Patterns (AKA "The Gang of Four") Game Programming Patterns by Robert Nystrom KonMari method Thinking in Systems by Donella Meadows Chaos Monkey Atomic Habits by James Clear Rosetta Stone Unity Learn Explore the Unity Editor - Unity Learn GitHub repo for the book Harrison on LinkedIn Supporting the show: Leave a rating or review Buy the show a coffee Become a patron Getting in Touch: Via the contact page Joining the Discord Remember to rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts , Podchaser , or wherever you find your podcasts, this will help the show's audience grow. Or you can just share the show with a friend. And don't forget to reach out via our Contact page . We're very interested in your opinion of the show, so please get in touch. You can support the show by making a monthly donation on the show's Patreon page at: https://www.patreon.com/TheDotNetCorePodcast .…

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Powering Up with Erik Jensen: An Introduction to EF Core Power Tools 1:08:48

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Metalama This episode of The Modern .NET Show is supported, in part, by Metalama , reduce your boilerplate code by up to 15% with Metalama's C#-to-C# template engine and reduce your code complexity today! Show Notes Hi everyone, Just a quick thing before we start: this episode was recorded in the middle of summer, which meant that Erik needed to have his office window open. It's possible to hear the outside traffic throughout, but rest assured that our editing team have done what they can to reduce it's presence. It's not that noticable and shouldn't affect your enjoyment of the show, but I wanted to give you a heads-up. Also, do remember that there's a full transcription available at the show's website; so check that out, too. Anyway, let's get to it. "So, I think my mantra for creating things like these tools is, "should be easy to get started and there should be a like an easy happy path but then if you want to deep dive and do a lot of options or even a t4 templates you can also do that," but there should be a simple happy path with good error reporting if something fails."— Erik Jensen Welcome friends to The Modern .NET Show; the premier .NET podcast, focussing entirely on the knowledge, tools, and frameworks that all .NET developers should have in their toolbox. We are the go-to podcast for .NET developers worldwide, and I am your host: Jamie "GaProgMan" Taylor. In this episode, Erik Jensen joined us to talk about EF Core Power Tools, and how you can use his project to increase your productivity with EF Core-based databases, regardless of the database technology used; if it's supported by EF Core, then the Power Tools extension supports it to. "The one that's definitely used the most is what in a tool is referred to as reverse engineering. Where you point to an existing database, which can be some of the database types I mentioned previously. Like SQL Server, as a SQL database, Postgres, Oracle, MySQL, and Firebird. And then the tool asks you for a number of options, like you can specify what namespaces you're using, and where the files are laid in your project, and many, many other options. And then when you press OK at that point, as you said, Jamie, the tool generates a DB context and some classes that represent your tables with navigations between the tables based on discovery of foreign key relationships."— Erik Jensen We also briefly touched on the MSBuild.Sdk.SqlProj project and its goal of giving cross-platform .NET developers a way to both describe and build their ideal database schema in code. We also covered Erik's personal process for dealing with feature requests, and how developers can ensure that that are providing valueable feedback to open-source projects; a subject that will come up again soon with future guest Scott Harden. Anyway, without further ado, let's sit back, open up a terminal, type in `dotnet new podcast` and we'll dive into the core of Modern .NET. Supporting the Show If you find this episode useful in any way, please consider supporting the show by either leaving a review (check our review page for ways to do that ), sharing the episode with a friend or colleague, buying the host a coffee , or considering becoming a Patron of the show . Full Show Notes The full show notes, including links to some of the things we discussed and a full transcription of this episode, can be found at: https://dotnetcore.show/season-7/powering-up-with-erik-jensen-an-introduction-to-ef-core-power-tools/ EF Core Power Tools Contributors The following list is correct as of Oct 4th, 2024, and aims to show that it takes a village to create a tool as ubiquitous as EF Core Power Tools. It contains the top 10 (arranged by number of contributions) devs who have worked on EF Core Power Tools. Erik Ejlskov Jensen Stephan Over Varorbc Will 保哥 Pedro Rocha P. León Pratik Pote Emanuele Curati Jonathon Wyza Useful Links EF Core Power Tools wiki EF Core Power Tools on GitHub Install EF Core Power Tools as a .NET global tool XKCD: Dependency DacFx MSBuild.Sdk.SqlProj Episode 19 - The .NET Foundation with Jon Galloway Connect with Erik on GitHub Connect with Erik on X Erik's blog Music created by Mono Memory Music , licensed to RJJ Software for use in The Modern .NET Show Supporting the show: Leave a rating or review Buy the show a coffee Become a patron Getting in Touch: Via the contact page Joining the Discord Remember to rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts , Podchaser , or wherever you find your podcasts, this will help the show's audience grow. Or you can just share the show with a friend. And don't forget to reach out via our Contact page . We're very interested in your opinion of the show, so please get in touch. You can support the show by making a monthly donation on the show's Patreon page at: https://www.patreon.com/TheDotNetCorePodcast .…

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Chainguard and Securing Your Containers with Adrian Mouat 1:05:41

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RJJ Software's Software Development Service This episode of The Modern .NET Show is supported, in part, by RJJ Software's Podcasting Services , whether your company is looking to elevate its UK operations or reshape its US strategy, we can provide tailored solutions that exceed expectations. Show Notes "Okay. So I’ll come on to that point is that’s obviously something i’d like to talk about. But a couple of things I should mention, I guess. That I think you’re absolutely right with all the points you raised, but we are trying to work on on everything there. So a couple of things are worth pointing out: one is docker-init; so nowadays if you start in like a new project with python or node or whatever, you can run the docker-init command, and what that will do is like create a dockerfile and a couple of other files, I think, to help you get started, and it sort of contains that the best practices. So to try and help you get over the hump of trying to understand how to create a dockerfile, and all the different ways you can build that without needing to know everything. So I think that really helps."—Adrian Mouat Welcome friends to The Modern .NET Show; the premier .NET podcast, focussing entirely on the knowledge, tools, and frameworks that all .NET developers should have in their toolbox. We are the go-to podcast for .NET developers worldwide, and I am your host: Jamie "GaProgMan" Taylor. In this episode, Adrian Mouat joined us to talk about Chainguard, what a distroless container is, a number of tools that you can use to check whether your containers have any CVEs present, attestations and reproducibility, and a number of ways to secure your applications once they are running in the wild. "Yeah, I like your point there about showing your receipts. So in attestations, you can also say things like, you know, “we did do this on this image.” You can create an attestation that says, “hey, I ran a scanner on this image and I had this output at this time.” And because it’s all signed, you know that that did happen, if you like. Yeah, and also like, you know, you could have an attestation that said, “I ran these tests on this image at this time and this was the output,” sort of thing. So it’s sort of proving that certain steps were taken."— Adrian Mouat Anyway, without further ado, let's sit back, open up a terminal, type in `dotnet new podcast` and we'll dive into the core of Modern .NET. Supporting the Show If you find this episode useful in any way, please consider supporting the show by either leaving a review (check our review page for ways to do that ), sharing the episode with a friend or colleague, buying the host a coffee , or considering becoming a Patron of the show . Full Show Notes The full show notes, including links to some of the things we discussed and a full transcription of this episode, can be found at: https://dotnetcore.show/season-7/chainguard-and-securing-your-containers-with-adrian-mouat/ Useful Links Chainguard Container Hacks and Fun Images OODA Loop Snyk Grype docker scout the NVD (National Vulnerabilities Database) seccomp Google Distroless project github.com/wolfi-dev SBOMs Attestation Sigstore project edu.chainguard.dev Chainguard's YouTube channel Music created by Mono Memory Music , licensed to RJJ Software for use in The Modern .NET Show Editing and post-production services for this episode were provided (in part) by MB Podcast Services Supporting the show: Leave a rating or review Buy the show a coffee Become a patron Remember to rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts , Podchaser , or wherever you find your podcasts, this will help the show's audience grow. Or you can just share the show with a friend. And don't forget to reach out via our Contact page . We're very interested in your opinion of the show, so please get in touch. You can support the show by making a monthly donation on the show's Patreon page at: https://www.patreon.com/TheDotNetCorePodcast .…

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CQRS, System Maintainability, and Pragmatic Tech Choices with Dejan Miličić 1:04:59

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Metalama This episode of The Modern .NET Show is supported, in part, by Metalama , reduce your boilerplate code by up to 15% with Metalama's C#-to-C# template engine and reduce your code complexity today! Show Notes "Essentially, when you look at it, what we are doing, we are not building software. We are changing it, we are maintaining it. Because when you look at the typical lifecycle of the application, enterprise one I would say, or any big system where you invest lots of time lots of money building it, you want to exploit this for 5-10-15 years hopefully. So when you look at the percentages, you're building something for one year and then you are using it for nine more years, let's say. It's a 10 year life cycle. So when you think about it, you spend 10 times... er, 10 percent of your time building something and 90 percent of the lifecycle of the application or the system responding to change requests, building new things, changing, adapting, and maintaining. So essentially, our job is not to build out. Our job is to sustain all these request changes. I think that's the first point we need to clear."— Dejan Miličić Welcome friends to The Modern .NET Show; the premier .NET podcast, focussing entirely on the knowledge, tools, and frameworks that all .NET developers should have in their toolbox. We are the go-to podcast for .NET developers worldwide, and I am your host: Jamie "GaProgMan" Taylor. In this episode, Dejan Miličić joined us to talk about the CQRS pattern, how it came from CQS, what CQS is and how it's related to Alan Kay's original ideas for object-oriented programming, being pragmatic as developers and engineers, the importance of system design and system's thinking, and how we all need to realise that our software lives on for years after we've pushed our changes to the repo. "So I, indeed, agree with you that people should pay more attention to system design. Start looking at the whole picture. And the extreme of this thinking would be: okay you will go into job interview, they will ask you about, I don't know, quick sort you, will implement it on the whiteboard, and then six months later on you will go and purchase or maybe download a NuGet package with with a quick sort implementation, because you know it makes sense; you don't want to implement something that have been implemented this many times before."— Dejan Miličić Whilst this episode doesn't focus on .NET per se, I think that the subjects that Dejan and I covered are incredibly important for anyone who wants to seriously level up their game. In fact, Dejan proved this point when he said: "We [are] all, like, containerised into our own small silos and working on our own without being aware of the whole system. When you look at what people go through when they prepare for job interviews at, I don't you know, Google, Facebook, nowadays Meta, Microsoft, you have all these books on the system design. And then they go, instead of, you know, going to the job interview after 20 years of experience and talking about what you do and what you know, people with 20 years of experience still sit down and learn and prepare for the system design interview. I'm not saying they shouldn't be preparing, but some of my colleagues told me that that was the first time in their careers that they started looking at the system design as a discipline."— Dejan Miličić Anyway, without further ado, let's sit back, open up a terminal, type in `dotnet new podcast` and we'll dive into the core of Modern .NET. Supporting the Show If you find this episode useful in any way, please consider supporting the show by either leaving a review (check our review page for ways to do that ), sharing the episode with a friend or colleague, buying the host a coffee , or considering becoming a Patron of the show . Full Show Notes The full show notes, including links to some of the things we discussed and a full transcription of this episode, can be found at: https://dotnetcore.show/season-7/cqrs-system-maintainability-and-pragmatic-tech-choices-with-dejan-milicic/ Useful Links Dejan on Twitter: x.com/dejanmilicic Dejjan on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/dejanmilicic Music created by Mono Memory Music , licensed to RJJ Software for use in The Modern .NET Show Editing and post-production services for this episode were provided (in part) by MB Podcast Services Supporting the show: Leave a rating or review Buy the show a coffee Become a patron Remember to rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts , Podchaser , or wherever you find your podcasts, this will help the show's audience grow. Or you can just share the show with a friend. And don't forget to reach out via our Contact page . We're very interested in your opinion of the show, so please get in touch. You can support the show by making a monthly donation on the show's Patreon page at: https://www.patreon.com/TheDotNetCorePodcast .…

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