114. Tadej Pogačar interview: How he won the Tour, Vingegaard, losing, winning again, and his work with PlumeStrong

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This week James and Will are joined by none other than Tadej Pogačar, currently the greatest rider on the planet having this year triumphed - and decimated all-comers - at both the Giro d'Italia and Tour de France, a feat last achieved by Marco Pantani in 1998. Next up the World Championships and a potential Triple Crown - can Pogačar join that elite club of Eddy Merckx and Stephen Roche?

We sat down with Pogačar as he recce'd the World's course in Zurich and took on a charity bike ride for PlumeStrong, for whom he is ambassador. We discuss his rivalry with Jonas Vingegaard; why he secretly hates wearing the yellow jersey; what he makes of Remco Evenepoel; the pivotal moments at this year's Tour; whether his performances make him the GOAT (or if not, what more he needs to do); how he manages to stay so relaxed; and, most importantly, what he eats for breakfast.

This episode also has a bonus interview with tech billionaire and cycling fanatic, Fahri Diner. Fahri co-founded and runs Plume, the tech company behind the PlumeStrong foundation and the PlumeStrong Cycling Challenge. We talk to Fahri about staying focussed, why cycling is necessary for the soul, and how to run a tech company, a charitable enterprise and keep up with Tadej Pogačar, all the at the same time.

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Thanks to PlumStrong for helping make this interview possible. For more information about the PlumeStrong Cycling Challenge and how you can take part next year or donate, search #PSCC24 on Instagram or head over to PlumeStrong.

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