Kevin Krim & Kate Schutt on grief, hope and the incredible human spirit

PERSONAL VERITAS: Harvard alumni reflect on life's twists and turns and the impact they hope to have on the world

In this episode of PERSONAL VERITAS, classmates Kevin Krim and Kate Schutt have an incredibly intimate conversation about grief, hope, and the incredible human spirit that enables us to keep going in the midst of painful and unthinkable losses: the sudden and tragic murder of Kevin’s children Lulu and Leo in 2012, and the expected but still surprising loss of Kate’s mom from cancer in 2015 after she spent 5 years as her primary caregiver. Both turned to creativity in the wake of these losses and share in this episode how the act of creation, for themselves and others, can be an incredible source of healing.
BIOS
Kevin Krim is a father, husband and veteran digital media executive. Kevin is currently the CEO of EDO, Inc., a data measurement and analytics company for marketing, research and creative pros. He previously served as general manager and senior vice president of CNBC Digital, and has also served in leadership positions with Bloomberg, Yahoo!, LiveJournal.com, LookSmart Ltd., and McKinsey & Company. Kevin is the chairman of the Lulu & Leo Fund, a non-profit co-founded with his wife, Marina, in memory of two of his children lost in a 2012 tragedy. The fund’s flagship initiative Choose Creativity has grown into an inspirational global movement and set of curricula and training programs serving educators and children. Kevin earned an A.B. in economics from Harvard College. He lives in New York City with his family.
Kate Schutt is an award-winning singer-songwriter, guitarist, and producer whose voice NPR calls “glassily clear and glossily sweet.” Kate’s songs have won top honors from the John Lennon Songwriting Contest and ASCAP. American Songwriter calls Kate’s newest album, Bright Nowhere, “illuminating” and “the work that ought to bring her the wider recognition she so decidedly deserves.” Kate has shared stages with Terri Lyne Carrington, Bill Frisell, Julian Lage, Scott Colley, and Bernard Perdie, to name only a few. When not making music, Kate is a change coach who specializes in helping people navigate pivotal, powerful moments of transition: being ready to die, creating new careers, starting (or growing) businesses, and chasing Olympic medals. Her TEDx talk has over 60,000 views and has been called “nothing short of life- changing” for people struggling with grief and loss.
CREDITS
Executive Producer: Sally Wolf
Technical Producer: Jen-Chun Chao
Music: Kate Schutt
Art: Kate Isenberg
SONG
Carrying On Without You - Kate Schutt
Carrying on without you is exactly that
Carrying on without you is exactly that
Without you
I don’t want the grief to end, if it makes me someone new
I don’t want the grief to end, if it makes me someone new
Without you
Time does me in
Breathe out, breathe in
By now I’ve made a home here in this empty place
No dust, no fire, no color wheel, no saving grace
Without you
Time does me in
Breathe out, breathe in
Carrying on without you is exactly that

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