Hi, we’re Deb Perelman (Smitten Kitchen) and J. Kenji López-Alt (Serious Eats, The Food Lab, The Wok). We’re professional home cooks, which means we can - and will - make the same meal 57 times in a row on the quest for the perfect recipe. Is it crazy? For us, no, because we do this for a living. But for you? Yes, probably. Which is why you should listen to The Recipe with Kenji and Deb. You'll hear us talk about what goes into writing our recipes — the techniques we test, the ingredients we ...
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She’s My Cherry Pie is the ultimate podcast for bakers. Each week, baker, author & recipe developer Jessie Sheehan interviews world-class pastry chefs, bakers & culinary creatives and takes a deep dive into their signature baked goods. Tune in as Jessie serves up their favorite tips, techniques, and ingredients. Episodes drop each Saturday. Don’t miss a single slice. She’s My Cherry Pie is a production of The Cherry Bombe Podcast Network.
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Talks with my favorite bakers, food producers, pastry chefs, bartenders, cooks, spirits experts, and on other topics, such as travel, Paris, and French culinary culture. davidlebovitz.substack.com
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We tell the compelling stories behind cookbooks you won't get anywhere else. Featuring interviews with leading authors, we explore the art and craft of cookbooks, looking at both new and vintage cookbooks and the inspirations behind them … the compelling people who create them … and their impact on home cooks and the culinary world. saltandspine.substack.com
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Dishing On Julia is the official companion podcast for the Max Original series Julia, inspired by the life of Julia Child. Join host Kerry Diamond of Radio Cherry Bombe each week as she talks to the creatives and crew behind Julia as well as the culinary superstars and thought leaders who share their perspective on, and personal connection to, the OG food celebrity. Learn how Julia’s talent, determination, and joie de vivre changed cuisine and culture at a pivotal time in American history. E ...
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Smitten Kitchen creator Deb Perelman is back on She’s My Cherry Pie! This time, the beloved blogger and recipe developer chats with host Jessie Sheehan all about icebox cakes, the no-bake dessert perfect for summertime. They walk through Deb’s recipes, from the classic chocolate cookies and cream to peanut butter and strawberry graham versions. Cli…
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Michelle Hernández is the pastry chef and owner of Le Dix-Sept, the San Francisco pâtisserie known for confections featuring botanicals such as flowers, teas, cacao, and honey. As a child, Michelle loved to use her Easy-Bake Oven and was obsessed with PBS cooking shows like Great Chefs and Yan Can Cook. She wanted to go to culinary school, but head…
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Kenji and Deb will be back September 9 with all new episodes. Watch this space!Di Deb Perelman & J. Kenji López-Alt
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Lucie Franc de Ferriere is the founder and baker behind NYC’s From Lucie, which became a top destination for cake lovers soon after opening early last year. Now, Lucie’s whimsical layered desserts topped with fresh flowers can be seen all over Instagram and folks like Lorde and Blake Lively are fans. On today’s episode, Lucie talks with host Jessie…
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Jen Yee is the Executive Pastry Chef of Wynn Las Vegas, where she oversees the pastry program at more than 20 venues across two five-star resorts. In today’s episode, Jen chats with host Jessie Sheehan about what motivated her to take on this role plus her past work at renowned fine-dining restaurants, including one run by Gordon Ramsay. She also w…
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Lyndsay Sung is the Vancouver-based baker behind the Coco Cake Land website and is known for her cute and modern buttercream creations. She is also the author of “Plantcakes: Fancy + Everyday Vegan Cakes for Everyone.” “I love making people feel included,” she tells host Jessie Sheehan. Lyndsay and Jessie chat about her Vegan Funfetti Cake with Swi…
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Live from Seattle: Deb in conversation with Kenji
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Kenji has many pans going on the fire at all times, one of which was directing this year’s Community Curated Series for Seattle Arts & Lectures. In January 2024, he invited his future podcast bestie Deb onstage with him to chop it up about recipe development (and theft!), family, and greasy bags of Dick’s. Thanks to Alison Stagner and Woogee Bae of…
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Amisha Gurbani is the Bay Area-based culinary creative behind @thejamlab and author of the “Mumbai Modern” cookbook. On today’s episode, host Jessie Sheehan chats with Amisha about her upbringing in Mumbai, kitchen memories with her mother, and how she combines Indian and Californian flavors to add depth to her recipes. They also dive into Amisha’s…
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Mindy Segal is all about making the ordinary extraordinary. She opened her first restaurant, Hot Chocolate, back in 2005, after honing her craft in some of Chicago’s top restaurants. Today, she’s at the helm of Mindy’s Bakery in Wicker Park, and her most recent project is Mindy’s Edibles, a line of infused gummies and chocolates. In this episode, M…
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Thanks to our friends at Special Sauce for allowing us to share this episode. Deb, Kenji, and host Ed Levine talk about ye olde days of early food blogging and the backstory of The Recipe.Di Deb Perelman & J. Kenji López-Alt
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We know you don’t want to burn your food in the kitchen (unless it’s a char/sear kinda situation), but you know what else you don’t want to burn? You, the cook. Deb and Kenji reveal their tips for avoiding cooking burnout, as well as how to mine your own sodium citrate at home. Did your eyes get whiplash reading this? Buckle up because your letters…
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David Lebovitz is a pastry chef, cookbook author, and recipe developer based in France. He’s known for his popular newsletter, which gives subscribers a window into his life in Paris, including restaurant recommendations, recipes, and personal stories. On today’s episode, David joins host Jessie Sheehan to discuss his time at Chez Panisse, his move…
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Avery Ruzicka is the founder and head baker of Manresa Bread in the San Francisco Bay Area. On today’s episode, Avery and host Jessie Sheehan walk through Avery’s recipe for kouign-amann, the buttery, laminated pastry with a caramelized crunch from the Brittany region of France. Avery describes the layering process necessary to create its texture, …
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After putting out our first batch of episodes, we put out a call to our listeners — any questions? You sure did. Thanks to listeners from around the world who heeded our call, we bring you our first mailbag episode. Kenji and Deb debunk the 30-minute recipe, contemplate tiers of butter, go down the soup dumpling rabbit hole, and much more.…
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Marissa Gencarelli is the co-founder of Yoli Tortilleria, the Kansas City-based bakery and product line. In this episode, Marissa and host Jessie Sheehan walk through the process of making corn and flour tortillas from scratch. You’ll learn about different corn varieties, the ancient process of “nixtamalization,” and how to look out for the pancita…
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If anyone knows the cuisine of Nice, it’s Rosa Jackson, owner of Les Petits Farcis for over twenty years. Located in the sunny south of France, Niçoise cooking is known for its freshness and Mediterranean flavors, using ingredients that range from local olive oil and anchovies to vibrant vegetables, such as tomatoes, Swiss chard, and zucchini (and …
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Pastry Chef Tova du Plessis is the founder of Philadelphia’s Essen Bakery, which specializes in traditional Jewish pastries and sweets. Tova left Johannesburg to study medicine in the U.S., and wound up making a hard pivot to the world of baked goods. She joins host Jessie Sheehan to share her thoughts on unique ingredients she loves (like glucose …
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In this episode, Kenji and Deb talk all about asparagus. You can roast it, puree it, sautee it, grill it, and even eat it raw. It can serve as a snack or as part of a main dish. Did you know it grows in different colors? Hear how Deb prepares asparagus as a family snack and how it can make for a great pizza topping. And it wouldn't be an episode ab…
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Jezabel Careaga is the owner of Jezabel’s, the beloved Argentinian restaurant and bakery in Philadelphia. She joins host Jessie Sheehan to chat about her early memories of cooking with her grandmother and her culinary journey from Argentina to the U.S. They walk through Jezabel’s classic beef empanada recipe and how to make the most flavorful empan…
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Noelle Blizzard is the cake artist/owner behind New June, a micro-bakery and cake studio in Philadelphia. She is known for her beautiful Victorian-style cakes that incorporate the Lambeth decorating technique of colorful garlands, ruffles, and more. This method became popular in the 1930s and has found new life on social media. Noelle joins host Je…
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Grilling season is here and so are Kenji and Deb to talk grilled chicken. From marinades to brines, to the one thing that can prevent dried-out grilled chicken: a meat thermometer. No easy access to a grill? We talk grill pans, using vinaigrette for grilled chicken, and a condiment base for your marinades that Deb now swears by. Recipes mentioned: …
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Nichole Accettola is the chef/owner of Kantine, a Scandinavian-inspired cafe and bakery in San Francisco, and author of the 2023 baking book, “Scandinavian from Scratch.” She’s long been inspired by Scandinavia, thanks to a summer exchange program in Denmark right after high school. After attending the Culinary Institute of America in New York and …
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Our guest on today’s show is baker, food stylist, and cookbook author Benjamina Ebuehi. Benjamina was a finalist on “The Great British Bake Off,” where she stood out for her approachable and creative recipes. Since then, she’s written three baking books, including “The New Way to Cake” and “A Good Day to Bake.” Her newest is “I’ll Bring Dessert,” w…
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Iceberg lettuce gets a bad rap, but can make a good wrap. In this episode, Kenji and Deb go all in on lettuce. From wedge salads with homemade ranch to chronicling the rise, fall, and resurgence of the hardest-working lettuce in the kitchen. Knife and fork wedge salads are just the tip of the iceberg. Iceberg lettuce soup? Pickled iceberg lettuce? …
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Alexandra Stafford is a recipe developer, cookbook author, and creator behind Alexandra’s Kitchen blog. Her new cookbook, “Pizza Night,” is a New York Times’ bestseller and features pizza and salad recipes for all seasons of the year. You project bakers out there will love this episode! Host Jessie Sheehan and Alexandra go through her recipe for Ne…
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Today’s guest is Rose Levy Beranbaum, the renowned baker and award-winning author behind 12 cookbooks, including “The Cookie Bible” and “The Baking Bible.” The 35th anniversary edition of “The Cake Bible” will be out this fall. In this episode, host Jessie Sheehan chats with Rose about her recipe for All Occasion Downy Yellow Butter Cake with Dark …
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News to us at Radiotopia, but there are some of you out there who have some really strong feelings about grilled cheese, almost enough for a whole separate podcast. What is it about this seemingly mellow, humble sandwich — a favorite of both small children and stoners — that elicits all this controversy? (It’s always the quiet ones.) Even if you do…
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Episode 166: James Park This week, James Park joins us to discuss his first cookbook, Chili Crisp: 50+ Recipes to Satisfy Your Spicy, Crunchy, Garlicky Cravings. James is a seasoned recipe developer and food writer who has been published in outlets including Eater, Food52, BuzzFeed, and Chowhound. After moving from Korea to the American South when …
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Some people think tomato soup only exists to serve as a dipping sauce for grilled cheese, but Kenji and Deb are here to set them straight. A properly, lovingly made tomato soup — even with sad-looking supermarket tomatoes from February — can be a time portal, from the dreariest winter day to the peak of summer farmer’s market fresh. Kenji makes Deb…
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Podcast: A Chat with Jane Bertch, author of The French Ingredient: Making a Life in Paris One Lesson at a Time
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Can I tell you how much fun it’s been getting to know Jane Bertch over the years? I’m not exactly sure how we met, but it may have been when I was leading tours and brought our guests for a day-long market tour and cooking class at La Cuisine, her cooking school in Paris. Everyone enjoyed the day very much, including me, and over the years, we’ve s…
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Beloved dessert authority, recipe developer, and YouTube star Claire Saffitz is back on She’s My Cherry Pie! In this episode, Claire joins host Jessie Sheehan to tackle a baked good that has long delighted eaters and intimidated home cooks: chocolate soufflé. Claire says there’s a lot of fear-mongering around the dessert, but when you break it down…
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In preparation for this episode, Deb and Kenji fed their children so many pancakes that they are now on a pancake strike. But before you start feeling sorry for these young people, don’t forget they got to taste the rainbow of pancake styles. Tall and fluffy. Crisp and fluffy. Thin and crispy. The hottest pancake in the world right now, the Japanes…
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Today’s guest is Camari Mick, executive pastry chef at The Musket Room, a Michelin-starred restaurant, and at Raf’s, a French-Italian restaurant and bakery, both in New York City. Camari joins host Jessie Sheehan to chat about her Tres Leches Cake, which features a combination of cow, sheep, and goat milk and is composed of two layers of tres leche…
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Today’s guest is Gemma Stafford, the Irish chef, baker, and host behind the “Bigger Bolder Baking” YouTube show and website. She’s also the author of two books, “Bigger Bolder Baking: A Fearless Approach to Baking Anytime, Anywhere,” and “Bigger Bolder Baking Every Day: Easy Recipes to Bake Through a Busy Week.” She joins host Jessie Sheehan to tal…
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Kenji and Deb have history with meatloaf that goes way, way back, to summer camp in the 80s. It was not love at first taste, but Deb has a moment of clarity and achieves meatloaf enlightenment. Kenji and Deb chew over “meat batter”, how many Meat Loaf references in one podcast episode constitutes audio malpractice, and if parents who send their tee…
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Today’s guest is Lauren Ko, the contemporary pie artist and author of the baking book “Pieometry.” Since Pi Day is coming up, we chatted with the @lokokitchen creative about all things pie and her signature spoke design, which has been dubbed the modern lattice. Lauren joins host Jessie Sheehan to talk about her journey from novice baker to pie exp…
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I remember when Deb Perelman, aka: Smitten Kitchen, came on the scene in 2006. A few of us had been blogging for a couple of years, doing our thing—when suddenly, a fresh new voice came out of the blue (and out of New York), that segued perfectly to the new way we eat, and cook—less rules, more fun, and how we write about food. If you’re anything l…
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Today’s guest is Arlyn Osborne, a freelance food writer, recipe developer, and content creator. She’s about to release her debut book, “Sugarcane: Sweet Recipes from My Half-Filipino Kitchen,” which is filled with gorgeous photography and delicious recipes featuring Filipino flavors with Western techniques. Arlyn’s culinary journey has been fruitfu…
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Most people are familiar with the stuff in the blue box, but what might seem like a simple dish holds many nuances, from achieving that perfectly smooth cheese melt to avoiding greasiness or lumpiness. Find out why mac and cheese holds a special place in Kenji's heart and the results of Deb’s experience making Kenji’s three ingredient recipe. Recip…
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Today’s guest is Elizabeth Mayhew, the cake artist known for her custom charm cakes. Think charm bracelets, but edible! Elizabeth joins host Jessie Sheehan to talk about her unique decorating style and how it came to be. She also guides Jessie through the chocolate charm cake she made for Cherry Bombe's Alex Mill event last year, and explains why h…
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Today’s guest is Brian Levy, pastry chef, recipe developer, and author of the baking book “Good & Sweet.” Brian’s unique book focuses on sweetening baked goods with fruit instead of sugar, and he joins host Jessie Sheehan to talk about his technique and how it came to be. He then shares how to make his special prune-and-date-sweetened cupcakes with…
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Well, hello there! It’s been a minute. The Salt + Spine team has been busy taking some much-needed rest—and, of course, planning for an inspiring year ahead. What’s in store? Amazing podcast episodes, naturally, and all the typical goods: exclusive recipes, cookbook giveaways, and behind-the-spine content you won’t find anywhere else. But there’s m…
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New from Radiotopia, The Recipe with Kenji and Deb. Join us to hear what goes into writing our recipes — the techniques we test, the ingredients we taste — so that you can be on your way to creating your own perfect recipe. Whether you're cooking meatloaf, pancakes, or chicken soup, we got you, and you've got this. Episode 1 drops February 26. Foll…
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Google a baking recipe and chances are, the search results will include a recipe from Sally McKenney, the baker and recipe developer behind Sally’s Baking Recipes. It’s a testament to her popularity and the foolproof nature of her bakes. Sally, who is also a photographer and the author of three cookbooks—“Sally’s Baking Addiction,” “Sally’s Candy A…
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Today’s guest is Roxana Jullapat, baker, pastry chef, co-owner of Friends & Family bakery in Los Angeles, and author of the baking book “Mother Grains.” Roxana is known for her devotion to whole grains and a pastry case filled with dozens of beautifully executed bakes. Think Sonora Wheat croissants, blue corn blueberry scones, rye chocolate chip co…
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Happy 2024! To kick off our new season, host Jessie Sheehan is joined by Hannah Ziskin, pastry chef and co-owner of Quarter Sheets, the Los Angeles pizza place where folks line up for seasonal pies and sheet cakes. The celebrated spot was named one of the best restaurants in Los Angeles by both the New York Times and the LA Times, and Hannah hersel…
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The first time I went to Win Son bakery and café in Brooklyn, I wasn’t sure what to expect. It’s billed as a Taiwanese-American bakery, and I’m not too familiar with Taiwanese baked goods. I ordered a few things off the menu that sounded good, and after I brought them to the table, I started tasting my way around the tray, and everything I ate blew…
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For our final episode of the year, Diana Yen shares her recipe for a cookie perfect for New Year’s celebrations: the fortune cookie. Diana is a food stylist, chef, and founder of A La Carte, a creative studio based in Ojai. Her work has been featured in Cherry Bombe Magazine, Bon Appétit, and Kinfolk. Diana joins host Jessie Sheehan to talk about h…
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